ICPERFECT said:
Ephedra is the herbal and natrually occuring version, whilst Ephedrine hcl is the pure drug. You need to take much much more Ephedra for it to be as effective as the drug. Thus, these days (for other reasons as well), most stick to the drug.
Vasopro is what I use, and it defintely makes a big difference at either 25mg or 50mg per dose when stacked with 200mg caffiene. However, there is another ingredient in Vasopro (Guaifenesin) which has muscle relaxing properties, and prevents any of the Ephedrine being converted into mythlamphetamine.
Thus, if you can find a way to get *pure* ephedrine hcl, you will be even better off still. I dont buy it due to the added cost.
There are other supplements out now which work just as well (if not better than!) the ECA stack. From personal experience, Stimulant X is superior (at 3 caps for me - cheap at
www.bodybuilding.com), Cardio Breeze, YES (at the Anafit Store), Up Your Gas, and there are plenty others inc Redline energy drink.
Assertive Guy