end of cycle PCT question

[clink]

hey guys,
just finished my last injection yesterday (sniff) and was looking for some advice on PCT from all of you.
My cycle was 10 weeks, did Test Enth at 300/week and Deca Nandrolone at 500/week. this was split into 2 injections, one Monday, and the other Thursday. Results were good, i've trimmed down quite a bit and have some decent muscle definition/gains. Btw, am 42 yrs old, this was my 1st cycle, and have been lifting for about 8 years (side note, ..umm i'm hooked.. lol)
my question is ..when should i start clomid and in what dosages? also have nolvadex on hand..
thanks guys, much appreciated.

 

[Primordial Performance]

hey guys,
just finished my last injection yesterday (sniff) and was looking for some advice on PCT - post cycle therapy - from all of you.
My cycle was 10 weeks, did Test testosterone enanthate at 300/week and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - Nandrolone at 500/week. this was split into 2 injections, one Monday, and the other Thursday. Results were good, i've trimmed down quite a bit and have some decent muscle definition/gains. Btw, am 42 yrs old, this was my 1st cycle, and have been lifting for about 8 years (side note, ..umm i'm hooked.. lol)
my question is ..when should i start clomid and in what dosages? also have nolvadex on hand..
thanks guys, much appreciated.

You can start clomid and nolva now at 25mg + 10mg every day.

I highly suggest hCG. Get some and shoot at least 1000iu E3D for a couple weeks.

-Pp

 

[catulo]

isn´t too low doses 25mg and 10mg ?

 

[tin2]

arent u spose to stay away from nolva on deca and tren??

 

[bigrand]

CLomid and nolva are fine with deca and tren.
Personally think those doses are way too low, double both, and wait till three weeks after your last shot of test enth....if you start now, for at least 2 more weeks the test will unester and will still be enough in your system to keep you supressed, so the clomid/nolva now will not start you up again, only after the excess test has cleared.

 

[Primordial Performance]

arent u spose to stay away from Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and trenbolone??

Ha, your supposed to stay away from both those drugs anyway, but he already has them so Im telling him how he should use them.

I assume your talking about the up-regulation of the progestin receptor from the nolva? Yes, this is a problem, but it wont be an issue until he chooses to run Deca or Tren again.

The doses I recommend are low compared to the popular advice given on the forums, but not low compared to the research that’s been done on SERMs and hypogonadism.

In fact, he could just run the clomid 25mg/day and still basically achieve the same result if he doubled the dose or ran the nolva with it. If he would have asked about PCT before buying the nolva or clomid I would have said “run hCG on cycle, stay away from clomid and nolva, and get Derma Sustain for PCT”

-Pp

 

[worldclass]

Don't use Nolvadex for PCT following a cycle with nandrolone. Doing this is more likely to cause gyno post cycle and make recovery harder.
Use an aromatase inhibitor and as suggested HCG. I like AIFM personally.
Start the HCG as soon as possible for a week. Start your clomid at 50mg/day for 2 weeks beginning June 30. If you're not going to use HCG then start the clomid at 100mg/day for the first week and then 50mg/day the second week.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Don't use Nolvadex for PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - following a cycle with nandrolone. Doing this is more likely to cause gynecomastia post cycle and make recovery harder.
Use an aromatase inhibitor and as suggested HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - . I like AIFM personally.
Start the HCG as soon as possible for a week. Start your clomid at 50mg/day for 2 weeks beginning June 30. If you're not going to use HCG then start the clomid at 100mg/day for the first week and then 50mg/day the second week.

There is absolutely no reason to use 100mg/day of clomid for PCT. Using this much will just increase your chances of suffering from the typical clomid side effects like low libido, ED, emotional issues ect. Its best to use the minimum effective dose on this stuff.

-Pp

 

[MichaelScott]

holy shit 100mg. i heard 20-25mg damn