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Eminem is the best solo rap artist in history!!!!!

HulkRow said:
LOL, this is the funniest post i've ever seen.

2Pac,Nas,Big,Rakim,Krs One,DEL,Ice Cube,Jay-Z,Common,Mos Def,Ice-T,Run DMC,J5.....are all better rappers emcees than em

shit sales dont mean shit....mc hammer sold like 10 mill...so is he one of the greatest rappers ever?

sales dont equal sales, if they did then Rakim and Common would be selling 25 million.

em's fan base is mostly the suburban white teenage group, if anyone thinks that eminem is the greatest rapper of all time then in dreamland.

eminems raps are weak and watered down, he uses the same "misguided white male" line veerytime and the now infamous "my life is shit, i hate my mom, i diss pop stars cause i cant do shit to real rappers".

Rakim,Kane,Nas hell even Crooked would take em in a battle.



finally someones talking some sense.


eminem is entertaining, nothing more. if you are a fan of his you probably only watch mtv and listen to the radio to determine your music preferences.


i listen to a ton of hip hop and the closest to mainstream i really enjoy is outkast and jay-z. andre3000 and big boi are creative geniouses. i got a lot more respect for them after i read the lyrics to 'mainstream'.


jay-z is solid too. he has a bucnh of songs that get mtv/radio play but all the ones you don't hear are the best. his lyrics are solid as anyone else's if you ask me. there's usually a metaphor in every line that takes some thinking to figure out but once you do all you can say is, "wow how does he think of that?" i read in vibe magazine that he doesn't even write down his songs. he thinks of 2-3 lines a day and remembers them in his head. once the song is complete he writes it on paper. i'm not sure if this is how he still does it but that was how reasonable doubt was done and that was his best album.
 
ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS A MATTER OF OPINION. MOST OF THOSE YOU NAMED I WOULDNT EVEN LISTEN TO. AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO RAP SINCE THE 80'S.




KAYNE
 
I think, since it's impossible for everyone to agree on one opinion, you can only judge one's popularity by the masses. Eminem's music has crossed borders and his tunes are catchy. His lyrics are, although repititious, very insightful and emotional. If record sales doesn' decide who's the best, what's a more fair way?!

Personally, I like Big but his really good songs have tons of background singers making the song, itself, more catchy. It's not his voice. Shit, you can barely make out what he's saying through the fat in his face. All his songs are about getting out of the ghetto and selling crack, anyways.

Jay-Z just tries to brag and prove how he's the best rapper. If you're hte best rapper, you shouldn't have to devote songs to it.

Tupac is alright but I wouldn't own his cd's. Em is the only person who i'd really buy all his cd's. It's not about being brainwashed, also. I never listen to the radio. His music just has a lot of "goodness" to it.
 
KAYNE said:
ONCE AGAIN, THAT IS A MATTER OF OPINION. MOST OF THOSE YOU NAMED I WOULDNT EVEN LISTEN TO. AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO RAP SINCE THE 80'S.

KAYNE

Have you ever heard illmatic? I'm sure you have if you've been listening since the '80's. Download that. I guarantee if Nas was white and his voice sounded like he hadnt hit puberty yet... you would love it and many other people would too. Listen to the lyrics on illmatic and the flow.. Eminem's lyrics suck and his flow is horrible...
 
I dont even feel like getting in depth right now, so I'll break it down for you short & sweet.

Eminem... greatest ever? - Not yet, but he's top 10-15 material

Biggie & 2Pac... greatest ever? - Not even close. 2Pac might make the top 30, but Notorius pretty much sucked.

Greatest group? - Either Wu-Tang Clan (props for originality & cohesiveness) or NWA (props for being a groundbreaking group & getting the West Coast into things)

Dont hate on Eminem b/c he's successful. Shit, the dude paid his dues a long time ago. Alot of his songs are great and of course thats 1/2 his lyrics and 1/2 Dre's beats (I still dont believe for a second that Em is producing his own shit, or if he is 'producing', Dre is programming everything & Em is tinkering around with buttons, but I cant complain, since I cant make my own beats either).

Sean Paul - Makes me want to decimate record execs... dont come at me with that weird bullshit. Dont really like Busta all that much either, but he's 25x better than SP.
 
part of eminems sale are due to his color. i mean im not detractcing from his emcee skills as he is definitly a good emcee but had he been black i dont think he would have sold as many albums. but credit must be given where due ..he is one of the best battlerappers out .
 
Tooshort said:
part of eminems sale are due to his color. i mean im not detractcing from his emcee skills as he is definitly a good emcee but had he been black i dont think he would have sold as many albums. but credit must be given where due ..he is one of the best battlerappers out .

Your right! Alot of his sales are due to his color but he also sells many albums because he creates controversy and tries to push peoples buttons. I think he is a great rapper or he wouldn't be where he is now without his skills and determination.

I think the top MC's are Ice Cube, Snoop, Dre, Em, Wu-tang, and 2 pac.
 
he sold out

booo
He sold out and lied about his ghetto life his mom was single mother worked ass off to raise him and he turned around used her in his music and lied about her being whore crackhead.

He did not want to pay her a dime so she took him to court proved him wrong and sued his low-class sellout ass!

He never lived the shitty life he portrays in his music.
 
I just read an article in Entertainment about how Eminem has virtually saved the waning music industry in terms of record sales. He's outsold everybody.

Here's another blurb about more recent sales history (notice the part where it says it would take albums 2 through 25 collectively to produce a tally comparable to what eminem sells):
Eminem Crushes the Competition:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=16051

I believe he's extremely creative and has the ability to joke and utilize self-deprecating humor unlike many (any?) other artists out there. He discusses very personal issues and is interesting because of his character flaws.

I'm not sure he's the greatest, but he's certainly one of the greats.

I'd also include Ice Cube, DMX, the DOC, Eric B. and Rakim and NWA (collectively) to the greats list.
 
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