Rich_d said:definitly don't eliminate cardio just decrease it. I eliminated last cycle and good god was I out of shape. not only because of not doing the cardio but when I tried to get my fitness back my heart had to cope with the additional stress of 25lbs on my frame which it didn't even know was there. My heart rate was sky high for weeks when doing cardio. Made some good size gains but never gonna eliminate it again
bigp3 said:I usually cut the cardio out when bulking. Last time I checked, lifting hard tends to get your heart rate in the same neighborhood as does cardio. So, wouldn't that still be cardiovascular activity??? Ask Nelson, he would agree.
Rich_d said:
it does raise the pulse rate but not enough and not consistently enough, needs to be consistent for 20 minutes at over 140bpm at least. You'll hover around 110-120 bpm for most exercises. It will rise to around 160+ when doing heavy deadlifts or squats but this will still drop down afterwards and is not around there long enough to keep your heart fully fit.
junk said:
This is funny. You wanna tell me that you pulse is 160+ for deadlifts and squats? That doesn't sound like someone is intense enough. I can get to 190 easily doing squats. Also, during my workout I never get below 140.
junk said:
This is funny. You wanna tell me that you pulse is 160+ for deadlifts and squats? That doesn't sound like someone is intense enough. I can get to 190 easily doing squats. Also, during my workout I never get below 140.
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