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Egypt bans Matrix Reloaded
Wednesday 11 June 2003, 8:05 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/11/1055220626468.html
Egyptian censors have banned the international box office hit The Matrix Reloaded on religious grounds and what they described as the film's excessive violence.
The head of the Egyptian censorship body in charge of audio and visual productions said today that the country's highest film committee decided not to allow the movie to be shown.
"There is no specific scene to which the committee objected but it is about the movie as a whole," Madkour Thabit, the head of censorship body, said today.
The 15-member committee is made up of film critics, professors, writers and psychologists. It watched the Warner Bros movie and held a discussion before voting to ban it.
It a statement, the committee said that "despite the high technology and fabulous effects of the movie, it explicitly handles the issue of existence and creation, which are related to the three divine religions, which we all respect and believe in."
It said the movie "tackles the issue of the creator and his creations, searching the origin of creation and the issue of compulsion and free will".
It added that "such religious issues, raised in previous times, caused crises".
The Matrix Reloaded, is the second sequel of a trilogy directed and written by Larry and Andy Wachowski.
The first instalment, The Matrix, was released in 1999. The third sequel concludes this November with The Matrix Revolutions.
The Matrix Reloaded stars Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss and Monica Bellucci.
The statement said violent scenes in the movie also played a role in the decision to ban it.
"Screening the movie may cause troubles and harm social peace," the statement said.
The first Matrix film was shown in Egypt but was criticised by some Islamic newspapers after they claimed it espoused Zionism.
"The press launched a campaign to stop showing the movie, saying that it reflects Zionist ideas, and promotes Jewish and Zionist beliefs," said Wael Abdel Fatah, an Egyptian movie critic.
Abdel Fatah added "that is why they are very cautious, to avoid any criticism this year".
Wednesday 11 June 2003, 8:05 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/06/11/1055220626468.html
Egyptian censors have banned the international box office hit The Matrix Reloaded on religious grounds and what they described as the film's excessive violence.
The head of the Egyptian censorship body in charge of audio and visual productions said today that the country's highest film committee decided not to allow the movie to be shown.
"There is no specific scene to which the committee objected but it is about the movie as a whole," Madkour Thabit, the head of censorship body, said today.
The 15-member committee is made up of film critics, professors, writers and psychologists. It watched the Warner Bros movie and held a discussion before voting to ban it.
It a statement, the committee said that "despite the high technology and fabulous effects of the movie, it explicitly handles the issue of existence and creation, which are related to the three divine religions, which we all respect and believe in."
It said the movie "tackles the issue of the creator and his creations, searching the origin of creation and the issue of compulsion and free will".
It added that "such religious issues, raised in previous times, caused crises".
The Matrix Reloaded, is the second sequel of a trilogy directed and written by Larry and Andy Wachowski.
The first instalment, The Matrix, was released in 1999. The third sequel concludes this November with The Matrix Revolutions.
The Matrix Reloaded stars Keanu Reeves, Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Anne Moss and Monica Bellucci.
The statement said violent scenes in the movie also played a role in the decision to ban it.
"Screening the movie may cause troubles and harm social peace," the statement said.
The first Matrix film was shown in Egypt but was criticised by some Islamic newspapers after they claimed it espoused Zionism.
"The press launched a campaign to stop showing the movie, saying that it reflects Zionist ideas, and promotes Jewish and Zionist beliefs," said Wael Abdel Fatah, an Egyptian movie critic.
Abdel Fatah added "that is why they are very cautious, to avoid any criticism this year".
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Alucard
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In other words, it would make the "slaves" think too much.
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
primetime21
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chesty said:
they blame israel when they get papercuts.
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ariolanine
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XBiker said:
The "egyptians" you speak have nothing in common with the people currently occupying the land.
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HULKSTER
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\ariolanine said:
So true. The Ancient Egyptians were one of, if not the, most advanced civilizations in ancient times. They contributed greatly to math, science and overal civilization. Modern day Egyptians are nothing like their ancestors. Why..........
Well, as soon as Islam overran Egypt, all of the intelligence left the country. It was replaced by the Islamic religion, which does everything in its power to suppress knowledge and facts that might show the Islamic religion to be what it is---BULLSHIT.
The Republican said:
Yes,if the movie was about an army of suicide bombers creating mass carnage,it would likely be a box office smash.
Ok, here is the deal bro's
First of all i would like to clarify a few things to all people reading this thread, and especially to those who posted, my reply in no way or matter should be taken as being aggressive or impetuous in tone.
I am an Egyptian, and a moslem, and i have the utmost respect for all, if not for most people posting on this thread, i have been on this board since 2001, and the knowledge i have gained from most of you people is priceless concerning steroids and other controversial issues being brought up. as you well know that people in third world countries such as myself have very little "intelligent" sources of info regarding our "science". I am in no way or effort trying to turn my post into a bitching or ranting notion, but on the contrary i am merely wanting to just clear up a few misunderstandings, so please bear with me in the following....
pOink- as much as i enjoy reading many of your posts on the chat board, i think you got a bit confused as to whom you refer to as walking bombs, first of all the those "walking bombs" are not egyptians, they're palestineans, secondly moslems do not walk in marches cut and bleed themselves, infact i could post a few links and notions from our holy book and hadiths (the prophets sayings) prohibiting that one should impact any sort of damage on one's or other's body. the people you refer to are the shi'aa whom are mostly found in Iran, and to add to your knowledge, the irony is that they do not believe in about three quarters of our Quran, can you believe that?! sounds really silly it's like why would you buy 4kgs of apple and throw three kilos of them in the garbage?!...makes no sense right?
Alucard- slaves..hmmmmm, i didnt get that one, so please excuse my lack of english skills, but from i would understand from your brief but short reply to the thread you probably are right, if i were to measure corruption on a scale of one to ten, my honourable government would surely score a full mark, it's sad how u can watch a handful of people controlling your home, based on policies and law that is constituted in their bedrooms beneath their sheets.
X biker- you know something man... you are so right, and believe when i say it is sad to watch what my ancestors did to this land just fade away in dust and remain locked and buried for thousands of years, while we modern egyptians just brag about how great we were...it's really sad, just like you said, just about it.
the republican- you are damn right man, that was my thought exactly when i picked the papers and read about the banning of the movie, if any of you guys came over to egypt and saw the type of pathetic arabic movies, which are not only low budget and quality, they also have no story and really insult the intelligence of the viewers, banning such a movie not only means that we dont get to know how others cultures think, but it means that our respectful government want to set an IQ and certain limit of awareness, that could match their superimposed tyranny..and that is what really hurts.
primetime 21- you know something man, i had a hunch that someone was going to mention israel when ever egypt is brought up in a subject, i'm glad you did, because that proves one thing, and that is that the mainstream and media in Egypt is so preoccupied on blaming israel for every fart that goes off in egypt and that is to diverse all thought into one direction and never take blame on it's own shoulder. I am by no means being biased to anyside because i know 99% of you have no tolerance to bullshit, and i'm no different, and that doesn't mean i agree with israel. i only believe in one thing any person, group, society or government, should be responsible for it's own actions and following consequences even if the opposing view is the so called "lethal enemy" never blame another for one's mistake.
ariolanine- if i were to rate the most truthfull post on this thread, it has to be yours man, as much as it hurts and pains me to admit, but you are right on the target, it is sad to see young children in our country being spoon fed the lies from us that we are the greatest people to inhabit the land (and by people i refer to current egyptians), they grow with egos based on cardboards, what a foundation, that only a few will get to understand when they see the real world.
Hulkster- i was waiting to reply to your post my friend, Islam is bullshit.. sure why not? if i were in your place (and that is in a developed country with developed societies and minds) i would say the same, and especially after all events that have occured since sept 11th, many of you would probably say that is irrelevant to the subject, but believe me it is relevant, think about it.
as much as it is hard for me to reply on your post, as it is a bit sensitive as well but let me get this straight, Hulkster can you please verify for me how intelligence has left the country? can you please verify how islam suppresses knowledge with notions from our quran? can you also verify exactly and precisely how islam is Bullshit? i am not trying to make you angry or to flame you my friend, infact i want to know those sources which you got your knowledge about islam, so i can catch up with the latest info form you guys, this is supposed to be a chat and converstion board, right? so let's dig in the sources and check things out. i'm not trying or wanting you to fall in love with islam, you know why, because i can see from your post and tone that you already have a preformed idea about how this "unintelligent and primitive" religion is all about, the irony is that, in islam you can never be a true moslem without believing in christianity and all religions before it...odd huh?
huckelberry- before i comment i wanna tell you i have the utmost respect for your knowledge on steroids and i have read all your posts and saved most of them on my hard drive for for referral, keep up the good work bro! ;-)
i can only say that is true, lately in the 90s business of movies started flaring in egypt, all age groups have enjoyed watching everyone blowing up stuff and blood rather than brain picking movies, even though all action movies (more than 95%) are of western productions, weird..
pOink- aaah.. we meet again my friend, it's funny you say that cause yesterday a friend of mine was talking about how many pussies he was gonna fuck when he goes to paradise, as if he'll every be there, sheesh...
for your knowledge islam wasnt brought to devastate peaceful jewish families and widow their wives, instead in the quran, if you had ever read any notions about jews, it was supposed to put them on the right track, i know this comment my offend many people but forgive me i didnt come up with the idea of the quran, so any flames please direct to god not me!, also as i said, do you think if a religion was supposed to show people the light would it be written in a vulgar matter, or instead be written in a way to "convince", i advice you to check any narrations that prove me wrong and state that moslems have to go fuck jews and any others, who dont believe in us. and you prove a point when you say "egyptians" and not "moslems" think about virgin pussy, also please show the narration which states virgin pussies in the quran, it's weird i havent read about it even though i have been reading the quran since i was 9 years and now i'm 28.
at the end i know this had been a very lengthy and boring post but forgive me i couldnt just sit and read and not post a word on the subject, anyway i welcome any reply on my post especially if it is intelligent as members of this board have proved to be, god bless you all.
First of all i would like to clarify a few things to all people reading this thread, and especially to those who posted, my reply in no way or matter should be taken as being aggressive or impetuous in tone.
I am an Egyptian, and a moslem, and i have the utmost respect for all, if not for most people posting on this thread, i have been on this board since 2001, and the knowledge i have gained from most of you people is priceless concerning steroids and other controversial issues being brought up. as you well know that people in third world countries such as myself have very little "intelligent" sources of info regarding our "science". I am in no way or effort trying to turn my post into a bitching or ranting notion, but on the contrary i am merely wanting to just clear up a few misunderstandings, so please bear with me in the following....
pOink- as much as i enjoy reading many of your posts on the chat board, i think you got a bit confused as to whom you refer to as walking bombs, first of all the those "walking bombs" are not egyptians, they're palestineans, secondly moslems do not walk in marches cut and bleed themselves, infact i could post a few links and notions from our holy book and hadiths (the prophets sayings) prohibiting that one should impact any sort of damage on one's or other's body. the people you refer to are the shi'aa whom are mostly found in Iran, and to add to your knowledge, the irony is that they do not believe in about three quarters of our Quran, can you believe that?! sounds really silly it's like why would you buy 4kgs of apple and throw three kilos of them in the garbage?!...makes no sense right?
Alucard- slaves..hmmmmm, i didnt get that one, so please excuse my lack of english skills, but from i would understand from your brief but short reply to the thread you probably are right, if i were to measure corruption on a scale of one to ten, my honourable government would surely score a full mark, it's sad how u can watch a handful of people controlling your home, based on policies and law that is constituted in their bedrooms beneath their sheets.
X biker- you know something man... you are so right, and believe when i say it is sad to watch what my ancestors did to this land just fade away in dust and remain locked and buried for thousands of years, while we modern egyptians just brag about how great we were...it's really sad, just like you said, just about it.
the republican- you are damn right man, that was my thought exactly when i picked the papers and read about the banning of the movie, if any of you guys came over to egypt and saw the type of pathetic arabic movies, which are not only low budget and quality, they also have no story and really insult the intelligence of the viewers, banning such a movie not only means that we dont get to know how others cultures think, but it means that our respectful government want to set an IQ and certain limit of awareness, that could match their superimposed tyranny..and that is what really hurts.
primetime 21- you know something man, i had a hunch that someone was going to mention israel when ever egypt is brought up in a subject, i'm glad you did, because that proves one thing, and that is that the mainstream and media in Egypt is so preoccupied on blaming israel for every fart that goes off in egypt and that is to diverse all thought into one direction and never take blame on it's own shoulder. I am by no means being biased to anyside because i know 99% of you have no tolerance to bullshit, and i'm no different, and that doesn't mean i agree with israel. i only believe in one thing any person, group, society or government, should be responsible for it's own actions and following consequences even if the opposing view is the so called "lethal enemy" never blame another for one's mistake.
ariolanine- if i were to rate the most truthfull post on this thread, it has to be yours man, as much as it hurts and pains me to admit, but you are right on the target, it is sad to see young children in our country being spoon fed the lies from us that we are the greatest people to inhabit the land (and by people i refer to current egyptians), they grow with egos based on cardboards, what a foundation, that only a few will get to understand when they see the real world.
Hulkster- i was waiting to reply to your post my friend, Islam is bullshit.. sure why not? if i were in your place (and that is in a developed country with developed societies and minds) i would say the same, and especially after all events that have occured since sept 11th, many of you would probably say that is irrelevant to the subject, but believe me it is relevant, think about it.
as much as it is hard for me to reply on your post, as it is a bit sensitive as well but let me get this straight, Hulkster can you please verify for me how intelligence has left the country? can you please verify how islam suppresses knowledge with notions from our quran? can you also verify exactly and precisely how islam is Bullshit? i am not trying to make you angry or to flame you my friend, infact i want to know those sources which you got your knowledge about islam, so i can catch up with the latest info form you guys, this is supposed to be a chat and converstion board, right? so let's dig in the sources and check things out. i'm not trying or wanting you to fall in love with islam, you know why, because i can see from your post and tone that you already have a preformed idea about how this "unintelligent and primitive" religion is all about, the irony is that, in islam you can never be a true moslem without believing in christianity and all religions before it...odd huh?
huckelberry- before i comment i wanna tell you i have the utmost respect for your knowledge on steroids and i have read all your posts and saved most of them on my hard drive for for referral, keep up the good work bro! ;-)
i can only say that is true, lately in the 90s business of movies started flaring in egypt, all age groups have enjoyed watching everyone blowing up stuff and blood rather than brain picking movies, even though all action movies (more than 95%) are of western productions, weird..
pOink- aaah.. we meet again my friend, it's funny you say that cause yesterday a friend of mine was talking about how many pussies he was gonna fuck when he goes to paradise, as if he'll every be there, sheesh...
for your knowledge islam wasnt brought to devastate peaceful jewish families and widow their wives, instead in the quran, if you had ever read any notions about jews, it was supposed to put them on the right track, i know this comment my offend many people but forgive me i didnt come up with the idea of the quran, so any flames please direct to god not me!, also as i said, do you think if a religion was supposed to show people the light would it be written in a vulgar matter, or instead be written in a way to "convince", i advice you to check any narrations that prove me wrong and state that moslems have to go fuck jews and any others, who dont believe in us. and you prove a point when you say "egyptians" and not "moslems" think about virgin pussy, also please show the narration which states virgin pussies in the quran, it's weird i havent read about it even though i have been reading the quran since i was 9 years and now i'm 28.
at the end i know this had been a very lengthy and boring post but forgive me i couldnt just sit and read and not post a word on the subject, anyway i welcome any reply on my post especially if it is intelligent as members of this board have proved to be, god bless you all.
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ariolanine
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Thanks for an honest objective response lr6
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Frackal
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HULKSTER said:
yes
primetime21
Banned
lr6 said:
That was an excellent post and i respect you for being totally honest.
Had they not made the accusation that the movie promotes jewish beliefs i wouldnt have said a word. in fact, i have NO problem with them banning the movie. They have that right and i respect it. However, to blame jews just makes them look ignorant.
either way, welcome to the board!
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ajtomasi
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They banned it because of it's hidden Christian content, not because of the violence.
lr6-Good post,sorry for coming off stereotypical.
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Alucard
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lr6 said:
You got it exactly as I intended it. Good man.
The remainder of your post was superb, too.
I hope to see you contribute more often.
circusgirl
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I've been to Egypt and it's sad how the govt there just don't appear to care about the "man in the street"..... I was staying with an Arab journalist and she wasn't too happy about the govt either, although she has to be careful about stirring up trouble...
...she thinks the govt are essentially a dictatorship, as according to her the elections are rigged (note, I have no proof myself one way or the other).
I really liked my stay in Egypt though, the people were real nice.
The Matrix Reloaded is apparently shit though, so you're not missing much....
...she thinks the govt are essentially a dictatorship, as according to her the elections are rigged (note, I have no proof myself one way or the other).
I really liked my stay in Egypt though, the people were real nice.
The Matrix Reloaded is apparently shit though, so you're not missing much....
fistfullofsteel
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Isn't this the country where female clit castration is the in thing? Don't they remove young girl's clits and parts of their labias and then they stitch up the vagina to make sure they stay virgins until they get married? So are they saying the movie is too violent because it's too savage or something? 
Well whatever, fuck those fucking camel jockeys. They can suck a big fat desert dick.
Well whatever, fuck those fucking camel jockeys. They can suck a big fat desert dick.
fistfillofsteel- thanks for the great input, but u got that wrong, the government is actually working hard with the media trying to get over this ugly and vulgar treatment of youing females, wich is solely done in the countrysides especially in the poor illiterate societies, by the way nice use of insulting words man.
p0ink
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lr6,
i must applaud you for your honest and intelligent responses to all of us, in spite of the fact that many of us, myself included, have a very negative and bias position against islam.
my problem with islam is not the scripture and religion itself, it is those in 'legitimate' positions of power; high ranking clerics, government officials, group leaders, etc that call upon the koran and twist it to manipulate the rank-and-file muslims. they seem to have no problem with blind faith, and just absorb and agree with anything their leaders say, so long as it is done under the guise of islam and in the name allah. be it waging 'jihad', killing jews, killing americans, censoring books/news/music/movies/etc., oppressing other groups of religious people, using the palestinian/israeli issues to distract their people from their own dictoral governments. etc; these people seem more than eager to carry out the wishes of their leaders through such actions.
as for your friend, you should remind him that any religion that is primarily fixated on and around death should make one wary. maybe this excerpt can shed a little light on how islam was bastardized and how so many are more than happy to follow along.
"The Order of the Assassins was founded in 1090 by Hasan-I-Sabah at Alamut in Persia. (NOTE: the word assassin, meaning a political murderer, is a corruption by the French Crusaders of the word Hashshashin, meaning hashish eaters). According to legend (and the accounts of the explorer Marco Polo), the Order's alleged master, known as The Old Man of the Mountain, turned his desert fortress into a training ground for assassins by subjecting those who enrolled to various techniques of mind-control. In this way, he created devotees of an almost unimaginable loyalty - political killers of an Ismaili Order that was feared more than any other Muslim faction. But the Old Man wouldn't just promise paradise to potential members - he's show it to them. Candidates were first drugged with hashish until rendered unconscious, at which time they were placed in an artificial paradise. Upon awakening they found themselves in a sparkling garden where they were lavished with the sexual delights of women and treated to sumptuous feasts. After a few days of figs and f******, they were drugged again and removed from the garden. When they later awakened back in the harsh reality of the real world, it was explained to them that the wonders they described were but a tiny glimpse of the paradise that was reserved for martyrs who were willing to die for their faith in Allah.
With this type of conditioning, the Old Man cultivated followers who took a vow of blind allegiance and, hence, could be sent on various suicide missions...."upon his return to the "real world", over time and at the hands of artful teachers, the recruits original beliefs in Islam were replaced with a perverted version called the "Nizari Ismailis.""
i must applaud you for your honest and intelligent responses to all of us, in spite of the fact that many of us, myself included, have a very negative and bias position against islam.
my problem with islam is not the scripture and religion itself, it is those in 'legitimate' positions of power; high ranking clerics, government officials, group leaders, etc that call upon the koran and twist it to manipulate the rank-and-file muslims. they seem to have no problem with blind faith, and just absorb and agree with anything their leaders say, so long as it is done under the guise of islam and in the name allah. be it waging 'jihad', killing jews, killing americans, censoring books/news/music/movies/etc., oppressing other groups of religious people, using the palestinian/israeli issues to distract their people from their own dictoral governments. etc; these people seem more than eager to carry out the wishes of their leaders through such actions.
as for your friend, you should remind him that any religion that is primarily fixated on and around death should make one wary. maybe this excerpt can shed a little light on how islam was bastardized and how so many are more than happy to follow along.
"The Order of the Assassins was founded in 1090 by Hasan-I-Sabah at Alamut in Persia. (NOTE: the word assassin, meaning a political murderer, is a corruption by the French Crusaders of the word Hashshashin, meaning hashish eaters). According to legend (and the accounts of the explorer Marco Polo), the Order's alleged master, known as The Old Man of the Mountain, turned his desert fortress into a training ground for assassins by subjecting those who enrolled to various techniques of mind-control. In this way, he created devotees of an almost unimaginable loyalty - political killers of an Ismaili Order that was feared more than any other Muslim faction. But the Old Man wouldn't just promise paradise to potential members - he's show it to them. Candidates were first drugged with hashish until rendered unconscious, at which time they were placed in an artificial paradise. Upon awakening they found themselves in a sparkling garden where they were lavished with the sexual delights of women and treated to sumptuous feasts. After a few days of figs and f******, they were drugged again and removed from the garden. When they later awakened back in the harsh reality of the real world, it was explained to them that the wonders they described were but a tiny glimpse of the paradise that was reserved for martyrs who were willing to die for their faith in Allah.
With this type of conditioning, the Old Man cultivated followers who took a vow of blind allegiance and, hence, could be sent on various suicide missions...."upon his return to the "real world", over time and at the hands of artful teachers, the recruits original beliefs in Islam were replaced with a perverted version called the "Nizari Ismailis.""
fistfullofsteel
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lr6 said:
nothing against the egyptians but it's just a freaking movie. come on, it's make pretend, remember. do they ban horror movies over there too?
pOink- my friend you will never know how euphoric i am from your response, it not only indicates that you are a man with an open mind, but it also shows how much you are aware of history, and i have the utmost respect for you especially after taking the time to write your neat response. First of all i had no dought what so ever that you bear any grudge against islam as scripture and religion, it is merely and sadly at the people doing all nasty and low actions in the name of islam, allah and mohammed. the part of history you mentioned proves my point and yours clearly, which is an example of how people (in charge) twisted islam into a barbaric and brutal and ugly meaning, and as an additional info regarding the word islam, the meaning of islam in arabic is peace, so how could these blind followers not just read the holy book, instead just take a few minutes and think about the name of this religion, just as the prophetics before, Moses, Jesus, they have all pleaded for peace and Mohammed is no different, it makes sense to me.
fistfulofsteel- i understand you my friend, and i wasnt upset from your response, but believe me it was not i who banned the movie!
fistfulofsteel- i understand you my friend, and i wasnt upset from your response, but believe me it was not i who banned the movie!
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ariolanine
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Every Christian should be able to understand what is happening with Islam. Because the same thing happened to Catholicism. All non Catholic Christian religions exist today because of the brutality of Rome that is now thankfully gone.
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