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effedrine... THE ultimate drug!

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Re: THANKS geoboy

ArizonaFeeds said:
I THINK I know when I am depressed. :)

i'm sure you do, but dont blame it on the efedrine.
if you're already depressed to begin with then the efedrine can take you over the edge. i know what depression is. nowadays, i use efedrine regulary and believe me it cannot possibly lead to despression in a mentally stable person.
 
so if you need it to keep you up during long hours like for work how many hours hsould you take a pill before going to bed ? like 2 am i get tired but i go to sleep by 9
 
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geoboy said:


Transient Rebound Depression.

this is merely the feedback-shutdown mechanism in a different endocrine system. body senses big load of norepinephrine-like substance so it slows down its own production. when the ephedrine washes out of system, it takes a few hours (12-24) to get back to pre-dose levels. (ephedrine prob has shorter half-life then the hormone norepinephrine)


Plus, it also effects the body's ability to make Seratonin. Take too much Eph for too long, and your body's ability to make Seratnonin will NOT "bounce back" in a matter of hours or days ....

Ever wonder why so many guys on here talk about their depression? Too much Eph use, for too long, will cause this. It will recover .. over time.

Plus, did everyone forget that fact that Eph is a Vaso-constrctor? Meaning it make small blood vessels smaller? This WILL give you a more limp dick than usual.

Eph will also elevate your heart rate and blood pressure. Now not usually a big problem. But the newbie, who takes a large AS dose without years of proper training, who will then have their supporting systems (heart, lungs, etc) taxed out already while on a cycle, ... they slam down 50-75 mgs of Eph, now they are running a big risk.


Sure, this stuff has its place, but its not without risks.

Be smart and know what you are doing.

Or in another way, it's dumbfucks that think this stuff has NO risk that end up using it the wrong way, get hurt, and these dumbshits are THE VERY REASON that the FDA is all over this shit.

One dumbass highschool kids gets some Eph, slams a shitload of it because he heard "its safe", and then he goes int vaporlock at the Track Meet, and all of a sudden the State authorities are out looking for anyone who has this stuff like they are public enemy #1. All because everyone said "its safe, there are NO risks".

So please guys. Dont sit back and just say "its great and there are no problems". There ARE risks, there are things to know.

Get smart.

Get real.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ephedrine is not illegal.

Riker29 said:



Plus, it also effects the body's ability to make Seratonin. .

I hadn't seen this anywhere, but it makes sense. do you have an online reference to read up?
 
RIKER29........

good work bro.
the most noticeable undesirable affect whlile on efedrine is the 'shrinkage' of the penis. now abusing any drug can lead to disaster and since efedrine is becoming harder to attain the likelihood of accidents surely will decrase in the ill-informed.

i don't think anybody mentioned that its a totally safe drug. i'm pretty sure that any vet, somebody whose been on this board long enough, or a well-informed sports enthusiasts understands that there are risks involved and not only with efedrine but with AS as well. the key to avoiding potential harmfull risks is to educate yourself before just taking a pill or an injection.

the high school kid who had a misfortune with efedrine is simply foolish. i know that i have NEVER taken something just because i heard it was safe. i do the research first, then consider the risk to benefit factor, and then make a decision on usage or non-usage.

efedrine in moderation is the key to minimizing potential harm.

you mentioned that blood pressure can become a big risk while on AS and ephedrine. would you please explain in more details the dosages that one would have to indulge in order to put himself in such a predicament.

thanks bro.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ephedrine is not illegal.

Riker29 said:



Plus, it also effects the body's ability to make Seratonin. Take too much Eph for too long, and your body's ability to make Seratnonin will NOT "bounce back" in a matter of hours or days ....

Ever wonder why so many guys on here talk about their depression? Too much Eph use, for too long, will cause this. It will recover .. over time.

Plus, did everyone forget that fact that Eph is a Vaso-constrctor? Meaning it make small blood vessels smaller? This WILL give you a more limp dick than usual.

Eph will also elevate your heart rate and blood pressure. Now not usually a big problem. But the newbie, who takes a large AS dose without years of proper training, who will then have their supporting systems (heart, lungs, etc) taxed out already while on a cycle, ... they slam down 50-75 mgs of Eph, now they are running a big risk.


Sure, this stuff has its place, but its not without risks.

Be smart and know what you are doing.

Or in another way, it's dumbfucks that think this stuff has NO risk that end up using it the wrong way, get hurt, and these dumbshits are THE VERY REASON that the FDA is all over this shit.

One dumbass highschool kids gets some Eph, slams a shitload of it because he heard "its safe", and then he goes int vaporlock at the Track Meet, and all of a sudden the State authorities are out looking for anyone who has this stuff like they are public enemy #1. All because everyone said "its safe, there are NO risks".

So please guys. Dont sit back and just say "its great and there are no problems". There ARE risks, there are things to know.

Get smart.

Get real.


LOL at "vaporlock"
!


JC
 
leancuisine said:
RIKER29........

good work bro.

(snip)

you mentioned that blood pressure can become a big risk while on AS and ephedrine. would you please explain in more details the dosages that one would have to indulge in order to put himself in such a predicament.

thanks bro.

Well, things like this are never a firm (LOL, no pun intended) rule.

Ephedrine will raise blood pressure. It will also raise heart rate, etc.

Depending on the individual, their blood pressure and maybe even heart rate may be raised already based on what he is taking.

Depending upon training level, his body may or may not be used to dealing with these extremes.

Then, some people are just more prone to problems in these areas than others. Some guys may be able to have their blood pressure raised a lot for short periods with little or no problems. Others may not be able to handle the strain.

******

You know, all of these recommendations are not just about Eph, they also make a case for guys to be mature in their training, with years under their belts, before even considering AS.

Its not like some "rite of passage".

I can just hear the young kids mindsets now, when they see older guys tell them to "be natural for a few years". The young dudes think "aw, they are just saying that like its some type of club or whatever, like I need to sorta pay dues to join, screw them".

What many guys don’t realize is that not only will these years tell you how to eat and train (which is frankly why so many dudes USE AS because their natural training sucks so bad the only way they really gain is to use AS anyway, most guys WAY overtrain) but this extra training also trains the non-obvious pars of your body. Your heart, your lungs, your digestive system, you nervous system. These supporting functions get trained as well, and are KEY in being able to grow, and grow safely.

When you get over-eager kids that just want to "get big" because they know of know other ways to get chicks on spring break (lets get real here ... that what a lot of them are worried about) then they go WAY beyond what their bodies are used to.

Thankfully when you are young you can get away with a lot, but still, it increases the risks.

OK ... rant mode off.

With anything, Eph, AS, etc, its better to be aware of where you are and what the substance is doing.

There is no way to really place a firm number on exactly what dose level may create problems. I am amazed when I hear guys do more than 25 mg at one time. Maybe they are just fine with that, but thats way more than I would feel OK with.
 
Ephedrine is not to be trifled with; I have had a bad experience on it (just anxiety) and I'm an asthmatic! I'm used to vasodilating stimulants!

JC
 
Following up on a number of points - my personal experiences:

1- Ephedrine can definitely mess up your prostate. It did it to me.
2- In combination with gear, it works great. On its own it can work great. But I have also had periods where I think my natural test was low that I think it shrunk me down further. So, sounds odd, but, it has worked for me and it has hurt me too. As a result, I don't take it anymore. Plus, its hard on your system. BTW, my clinical evidence for the above: 18yrs of bodybuilding & watching my body day in and day out.
 
Ephedrine can definitely mess up your prostate. It did it to me.

Did you get permanent damage, or did it go away?
and what kind of effects did it have on your prostate?
 
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