Dynabolon, E2,George,Others

[liftsiron]

Two days ago I got my ass jumped by E2, for responding to a thread asking about dynabolon. Please see the information as it appears in The World Anabolic Review 1996 page 104.
[Although it is often compared to "Deca", its effect is milligram per milligram stronger. The reason is that Dynabolon is slightly androgenic with an anabolic effect, thus it strongly promotes the protein synthesis. The increased androgenic component helps the athlete achieve a good strenght increase and an accelerated regeneration. Those who have had good results with Deca will usually respond even better to Dynabolan. Athletes report a distinct, quickly effective, solid gain in muscles, which goes hand in hand with a significant gain in strenght.]

[Dynabolon is effective for 1-2 weeks, thus requiring more frequent injections than Deca. Bodybuilders who work with this compound usually inject it twice a week.]
Before I responded to the thread, I had dynabolon confuded with durabolon in my mind, so I grabbed the nearest reference at hand and did a quick check. Some of the above info my be incorrect, i.e. duration of release. But I know for a fact that I get twice as strong and as hard on dyanabolon as compared to deca.
Also you don't get deca dick from dynabolon. E2 said that they are the same drug, that's bullshit they are similiar but not identicle. Also E2 you really pissed me off by your response to my post, as a moderator you not only make yourself out to be an ass, but you reflect poorly on the entire elite board as well as George himself. No one responds to a thread to be berated, by someone who should there to help. I never post bullshit, and I do have a true interest in helping other members on this board. You could learn a lot from the Mustang.

 

[e2]

Yes i must be wrong because the WAR says so, a book with some good information but again a lot of crap is in there as well. Tons of minsinformation is in there.

I really am not concerned about what you think, deca is nandrolone decanoate , dynabolan is nandrolone undecanoate, if you want to think it's a different drug that's fine by me.

I think you need to do a ton more research, how about the fact that dynabolan reacts with and breaks down certain plastics and therefore should be shot with a glass syringe. There's tons of information that you're missing, looking at a website and looking at WAR just isnt' going to cut it.

You can think i'm an asshole all you want, i really don't care. If you think my trying to stop someone from spreading incorrect information makes me an ass and reflects badly on elite that your opinion and you're welcome to have it. Personally i really dont' care one iota what you think.


"E2 said that they are the same drug, that's bullshit they are similiar but not identicle"

When did i ever say they were identical??? I said it was the same drug with a different ester on it. Now didn't I?? I'm sick of this argument, you've obviously not learnt a thing here. There is a hell of a lot you need to learn before you try to argue this with me, and once you do learn you'll realize that i'm right.


You may think i'm an arrogant ass and that's perfectly fine by me, i'm jsut sick and tired of guys liek yourself spouting pure crap out of their mouths.

 

[liftsiron]

I really wasn' t questioning your knowledge. What concerns me is your piss poor attitude. As far as research goes bud I've probably have done more actual research than you ever will, that's one reason that I keep an open mind. Have you ever done dynabolon? I concede good day.

 

[Italianboy]

Dynabolon is NANDROLONE UNDECILIATO and not undecanoate.Dynabolon is a faster acting nandro.
The problem with it is that is 80,5mgxml so you have to do at least 5per week.It is the same thing of deca,but some body react better to the faster esters(as me....I don't like decadurabolin but love Dynabolon)

 

[MUSTANG_18]

As far as research goes bud I've probably have done more actual research than you ever will, that's one reason that I keep an open mind.

I don' think so...Do you have any ide how much time and effort he has put into the boards and his knowledge of gear is much larger then 99% of the guys on this board. Run a seach under his name and you will see for yourself. I would not go shooting your mouth off until you know what you are talking about first

M18

 

[Trevdog]

I don' think so...Do you have any ide how much time and effort he has put into the boards and his knowledge of gear is much larger then 99% of the guys on this board. Run a seach under his name and you will see for yourself. I would not go shooting your mouth off until you know what you are talking about first

M18

In deference to M18 I probably should stay out of this, but in fairness to liftsiron I won't.

I don't really care who is right or wrong about this drug, but liftsiron has a very legitimate gripe about the way he was treated by E2 in that thread. No amount of knowledge makes it ok for a mod to berate and insult a member who, at worst, has made the mistake of relaying information that he got from a seemingly credible source.

E2 has never flamed me, but this isn't the first time I have seen him inappropriately fly off the handle on someone. This kind of behavior and attitude is unacceptable. Mods should act as role models to other members. I'm sure I'm not the only member that feels this way.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

In deference to M18 I probably should stay out of this, but in fairness to liftsiron I won't.

I don't really care who is right or wrong about this drug, but liftsiron has a very legitimate gripe about the way he was treated by E2 in that thread. No amount of knowledge makes it ok for a mod to berate and insult a member who, at worst, has made the mistake of relaying information that he got from a seemingly credible source.

E2 has never flamed me, but this isn't the first time I have seen him inappropriately fly off the handle on someone. This kind of behavior and attitude is unacceptable. Mods should act as role models to other members. I'm sure I'm not the only member that feels this way.

E2 did not fly off the handle. He was stating a fact. I would do the same thing if I was being argued with when I know I am right. You have no idea what some of the questions the mods get through e-mail and sometimes they can be very stressful and hard to deal with but we do it because we enjoy helping people. I always try to be patient with people and help them as best as possable but I will be the first to abmit, some of the questiuons can get a little nerve racking.

M18

 

[needleboy]

E2 has a function to preform here. As a part of that function he must do his best to eliminate any incorrect info that gets onto the board. His tone was stern, but for a reason. Incorect info can in many cases get people hurt. AS are powerful drugs, and must be given due defference.

I have over the years seen many "facts" printed in books of all kinds that were incorrect, and sometimes BOLD FACE LIES!!

I think E2's tone was purposeful, it was meant to state without question the facts about Dynabolon so ther could be no confusion. If it was less than polite I see how it might ruffle someone's feathers.

I have learned from many people I did not like personally, this may be an opportunity for others to do the same.

 

[G-Force]

With all due respect M18 did you read the thread in question and if you did can you honestly tell the rest of the board that you see absolutely nothing wrong with the way E2 dealt with the fact that liftsiron made a mistake?
The reason I ask this is because I feel you have missed the point! I have been on this board long enough to respect the level of E2's knowledge and so I would have understood perfectly if he had got a wee bit hot under the collar if he was in the middle of a heated debate with somebody who refused to listen to reason!
However that is not the case here - there was no argument - liftsiron simply posted a reply to the thread starter and E2 went OTT on him and showed absolutely no respect!It wasn't even a big mistake and all it would and should have taken was for E2 to tell him he was wrong because he's a bro and explain why because it's called education and they are two main reasons why this board exists in the first place!Being the novice that I am means that I constantly scour this board for info and I have seen mods contradict themselves after they gave info which they later - through further research - found to be incorrect! Even G.S. said recently in an unrelated thread that mods will make mistakes because they - just like everybody else - are not perfect, I just hate to see someone's ego getting in the way of admitting that they were out of order!
M18 - you are very well liked on this board and like the vast majority of mods you also have the utmost respect of the members including me but are you sure that your views on this issue are totally objective?
E2 I have no doubt that you're very knowledgeable when it comes to A.S. but does this knowledge extend to the english language - if as it seems it doesn't get a dictionary and look up the word MODERATOR!

 

[Spunky]

i don't like E2.

 

[The Ranger]

DYNABOLON: (Nandrolone Undecanoate) 80.5 milligrams per injection. This is a French anabolic steroid similar to Deca-Durabolin but slightly more androgenic. It produces dramatic increases in size and strength. Average dosages are in the area of 2 to 4 ccs a week. It is popular in Italy. It is often preferred over Deca-Durabolin because it is less expensive.


Ranger

 

[Italianboy]

DYNABOLON: (Nandrolone Undecanoate) 80.5 milligrams per injection. This is a French anabolic steroid similar to Deca-Durabolin but slightly more androgenic. It produces dramatic increases in size and strength. Average dosages are in the area of 2 to 4 ccs a week. It is popular in Italy. It is often preferred over Deca-Durabolin because it is less expensive.


Ranger

Oh my good again!!!!
DYNABOL is NANDROLONE UNDECILIATE,not UNDECANOATE!!!!!!!80,5mgxml is right.It's an Italian drug and I know our shit.

 

[liftsiron]

Mustang read E2's reply to my thread, at the top he says that they are the same drug, then he says that he never said that they are identicle, then he states that dyanabolon needs to be injected with glass works (which is horseshit). If I am suppossed to believe that Dyanabolon and deca are the same, then does deca also need to be injected with glass works. Mustang I like you but your off base on this one. I do make mistakes, on this issue there is conflicting data so how does one decide what is accurate? I have 25 years in this game that's longer than you have been on earth. I also have 2 B.S. degrees and a P.hd and 80% of an additional M.S. I have a little research under my belt. The fact is that they are two very similiar drugs, but each has some properities that the other does not i.e. dyanobolon is more androgenic.

 

[G-Force]

What about it E2 are you ignoring this thread in the hope that it will sink without trace? Is it also possible that not only did you flame liftsiron unnecessarily but you did so incorrectly as well???

 

[e2]

No i'm ignoring this thread because i have no time to educate the two of you.

It's not worth my time. Liftsiron for someone who apparently has so much research time under your belt you seem to know next to nothing about steroids. Do you know what an ester is? Obviously not because you seem to think that there is a serious difference between nandrolone decanoate and nandrolone undecanoate. That somehow the chemicals have different properties. Interesting.

As i said i'm not willing to take the time to educate the two of you on the subject.