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$25 per 1/4 gram
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Sorry.. that would have been the wise thing for me to do. Can't think right now.. can't eat, can't sleep...
 
Seriously bro, shut the fuck up..... I feel for you being depressed but this type of self destructive self pity CRAP is nothing but


My old best friend.....he liked the self confidence too. So much he sucks cock for it now. This is a guy who was totally hetero when I knew him, but the power of the drug overcame that.
 
I've known a person that went from way overweight to a normal size (for his height, was probobly around 150)... It wont fix all my problems, but will help with one of them.
 
Speed makes everything burn a little brighter. Remember your ECA freakout a couple of weeks ago? Imagine that times ten. What could possibly be worth the eventuality of a bad trip?
 
really? well guess what, i didnt use speed and went from 310lbs to 194lbs over the course of 2 years. And i dont want to hear any excuses of two hard, if your willing to put your body at great risk using methamphetamines then u can take the time to work at loosing the weight. If your problem is that blasted heart in your chest, yes speed will throughly fuck it up if not make u blow a chamber or two.
 
What the fuck, seriously what the fuck.

If you lost weight already, why the fuck do you need speed? EAT RIGHT and EXERCISE and stop being a dumbass.
 
Whats the point of living if I am far from happy? I know drugs is a dumb way to go.. but If it gets me there faster, thats less chance of me dropping so far down that I do end my life... Hell, I probobly will never be happy anyways...
 
Pink Space Biscuit said:
Yeah, we're all going to die anyways. What is the point is actually caring about yourself. :rolleyes:
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I know.. I've seen it, heard it.. and try to do it.. Everytime I do, I just end up dipping back down deeper.. I hate this.. this is Christmas time.. This is the time of year people should be happy, but I have ZERO reason to be happy... I hate christmas.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:
Whats the point of living if I am far from happy? I know drugs is a dumb way to go.. but If it gets me there faster, thats less chance of me dropping so far down that I do end my life... Hell, I probobly will never be happy anyways...
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What is making you far from happy? figure that out and work on it. Happiness is more a belief then a feeling, if you believe u can be or are happy then u are, it is something that can be willed to be one way or another, you are allowing yourself to be depressed and allowing the negativity to devour you why i dont know because i dont know the situation you are facing. Wallowing in self pity is a real shitty thing, and it does nothing to help improve the situation. If this is over a chick, theres half a population worth of other females in this world, move on move out and go looking if that is your key to happiness. Otherwise, sit down, shut up and enjoy the ride called life.
 
Consider this: even if you do find a bodyweight you're comfortable at, by the time you get there, your adrenals will be waxed, and you won't be able to enjoy it. Or anything. You'll be taking the drug just to feel normal. You think you're depressed now? Take lots of meth, burn out your pleasure center, and then tell us how bad it is.

Lecture over, here's some hard science: speed doesn't raise your metabolism by more than 20% at best. You can get that kind of boost naturally with enough muscle on you.
 
Guess it would be good to just let it out then..

I know all of this will pass with time.. but it still is getting me down.

Its christmas time.. I will again get nothing (not even talking money), no love, no family get togethers.. nothing..
I have no money, and am actually 300+ in debt, and my current job is only giving me 20 hours a week at 6dollars an hour. I have gone back to my old job, and am requesting some holiday work. But not so sure thats going to work out, and if it does, it will mean a 60-70 hour workweek for the rest of the month.
This is not over a girl, but infact (as stupid as it sounds), the lack of a girl.. well... not even so much the lack of a girl, but the lack of someone to be close to, love, apreciate. (I had this before with only my grandma, which died last year.. no one else in my family is close, or gives a rats ass).
I am again, very unhappy with my apearance.. I hate it, and try to look at myself better, but it fades quickly, and turns to the worst every time.
I feel as if I'm going nowhere, and Never will. Even If I go to school, I have no idea what I enjoy doing, and thus have no idea what to even start majoring in.
Another thing.. If I go to school, that means more work (gas, books, +my current bills), which means less time to train, cardio, and watch diet..

I know these are things other people go thru, and that I am a dumb fat fuck for letting them get to me, but I can't help it.. I try not to, and yet it still gets to me.

I'm sorry to all of you.. I just whine, and bitch.. but truth is... I have nowhere to turn to, and my dumb ass try's talking to people I don't know on a internet Chat Board...
 
I feel for you, but you are wallowing in self pity.

You have your health

You have some intelligence

That's all you need.

Accomplishing fat loss in today's world is not very difficult, you can do it.

Meth is not going to help you. It will burn your muscle just as quickly, generate enough free radical damage to kill a horse, and make your skin look like a moldy piece of olive and pepperonic pizza....you did know that didnt you? The acne it causes?

Also you will not sleep off of it ifor days.....at first you will have alot of energy, but after a day or two it will be a struggle to get off the floor.

I have been very depressed twice in my life....both times I could have wallowed and whined .. and I did for a bit, but eventually I got myself out of it by knowing what to do and doing it.

The key to self confidence is to always improve yourself. If you are always doing something to make yourself better than you were before, your confidence will always grow. You can find a job that pays more than 6 dollars an hour. 6 an hour is for high school kids.

Basically its like you are at the bottom of a shallow pit. Instead of looking up and trying to climb out, youre looking at the floor and the walls whining about it....I do have sympathy for you but your whining is excessive and will not accomplish anything.

When you have decided you have spent enough time whining for pity from others - Then you can direct that energy into finding a way out for yourself.
 
Shit bro,
You cant let all that bullshit get to you. And you definitely dont need to be messing around with speed. Maybe weed or some xanax, but definitely not speed. Not to mention it'd be a habit that would get expensive quick. If all that you have is yourself, then make yourself priority #1. Set some goals, make some plans for yourself. Think about your future. Make shit happen. If you dont do something for you, who will?

Have you tried a CKD (cyclical ketogenic diet) before? I never have, but I've heard it gets great results for endomorphs, so I might try it soon. That'd be something to consider and you could do it cheap. Take your aggression out on the weights and make sure you do your cardio.

If you're not in school, you need to be stackin the cheddar. Find a couple PT jobs you like or that are incredibly easy and get paid doin that, and do shit on the side of that if you can. Additional money will ease some financial burdens and lower your stress.
 
DW, I feel for ya, but DON'T start messing with drugs when you're depressed. It WILL make things worse. I like rec. drugs, but using them to self medicate when you're depressed will only push you down deeper. Trust me on this.

If you want a speedlike boost/appetite suppressant, drink coffee or espresso followed by a lot of water and good eating habbits. Hit the weights hard and push yourself. It's slow going, but the time is gonna pass one way or another, you might as well work for the things you want...eventually they will come to you if you put in the effort. When you get what you want, you'll feel proud of your accomplishments.

Living a life with no one to love or care about sucks. Keep meeting new people and be yourself. Don't be afraid to say something to a stranger...even a comment about the weather can start off a cool conversation. Do you have a pet? Cats are easy and cheap to take care of. But I could see you huggin on a python. :)

You have nothing good to do for Christmas? How about vollunteering at a shelter or retirement home? Do you have any idea how much joy you would bring to others? That feeling will rub off on you aftewards. :)
 
MrsPuddlesFL, thank you. I'm a bit better off today then I was yesterday.. I don't know exactly why I was so far down yesterday. As far as the volunteering goes, sounds good, and I would do so if I werent about to give myself a 70+ hour workweek...

BeefyBull, The main problem I have with my diet right now, is that I have no money to buy anything, and their again, is nothing healthy or close to my diet at my house... only carbs, alot of carbs...

Frackal, thanks bro.
 
i am a big fan of these for fat loss

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and for drugs just do "G"
 
CHEAP diet:

Breakfast: Oatmeal and eggs (like one whole egg plus 4 or 5 whites, you can even nuke the eggs). Coffee with fat free Coffee Mate and skim milk.

Lunch and dinner: Brown rice (half to a whole cup cooked), chicken or turkey legs (baked with the skin removed), some veggies like frozen broccoli or string beans, and mustard...I've learned to eat anything with mustard instead of catsup or mayo or fats.

Snack on the meat if you're hungry at other times. Cook in large quantities so that the food is always available when you're hungry. Bring it with you to work in a container.

Drink lots of water, no juice or soda.

It's a boring diet, but it will be cheap, easy, nutritious, fill you up, and it WILL work to loose fat and build muscle.

You don't HAVE to have all the protein powders and stuff. I didn't start using them myself until recently.

Allow yourself one cheat night a week...pizza is what I usually do.


The vollunteering at a shelter or retirement home was meant for Christmas Eve and Day...if you're not workin. :)


G is good, but I'd stay away until you're feeling better overall...it can feel too good and you will want to stay high instead of getting out and working or lifting. It's also very dangerous if you take just a little too much. Read up on Erowid. It's a good high, but it also helped me when I was having withdrawl from quitting smoking. Besides, it costs money! Spend the money on good food instead. I think it also aids as an appetite suppressant and supposedly helps build muscle, but you can do without it.
 
MrsPuddlesFL said:
CHEAP diet:

Breakfast: Oatmeal and eggs (like one whole egg plus 4 or 5 whites, you can even nuke the eggs). Coffee with fat free Coffee Mate and skim milk.

Lunch and dinner: Brown rice (half to a whole cup cooked), chicken or turkey legs (baked with the skin removed), some veggies like frozen broccoli or string beans, and mustard...I've learned to eat anything with mustard instead of catsup or mayo or fats.

Snack on the meat if you're hungry at other times. Cook in large quantities so that the food is always available when you're hungry. Bring it with you to work in a container.

Drink lots of water, no juice or soda.

It's a boring diet, but it will be cheap, easy, nutritious, fill you up, and it WILL work to loose fat and build muscle.

You don't HAVE to have all the protein powders and stuff. I didn't start using them myself until recently.

Allow yourself one cheat night a week...pizza is what I usually do.


The vollunteering at a shelter or retirement home was meant for Christmas Eve and Day...if you're not workin. :)


G is good, but I'd stay away until you're feeling better overall...it can feel too good and you will want to stay high instead of getting out and working or lifting. It's also very dangerous if you take just a little too much. Read up on Erowid. It's a good high, but it also helped me when I was having withdrawl from quitting smoking. Besides, it costs money! Spend the money on good food instead. I think it also aids as an appetite suppressant and supposedly helps build muscle, but you can do without it.
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The worst thing is that ALL of this is going to have to wait.. I don't even have money for gasoline, let alone any food or drugs, I was just trying to get info on it for when I do have the money.

Thanks alot for the input Puddles and Prophet.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:
Thats just the start of it.. I actually let far too much get to me.
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I am in the same boat as you are, or was I should say, emotionally, and it took an unintentional almost OD for me to break out of the mold. usually when you have hit rock bottom, there is no way to go except upwards. I hope you climb out of your sorrows and look at life with a much wider angle. there is more to life than just reflecting on what you don't have or need. since I had no one to confide to(and still don't), I just accepted it it and dealt with it. what doesn't kill you will only make you stronger.

:fro:
 
prophet said:
i am a big fan of these for fat loss

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and for drugs just do "G"
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That's fucking irresponsible prophet.

DW if you think rec drugs is your way out of this think again buddy. It may put you in paradise for a few hours a day, but over time, you'll descend into a far worse state than you started.

Rec drugs will basically amplify the feelings, emotions you are experiencing at the time you take them. Therefore, if you are feeling depressed, the come down is going to be a bitch and you'll wish you never dropped.

I've never had a bad experience on any drug, because i've always taken them to enhance my night out and while in a positive, happy frame of mind at a dance party, club etc.

Smarten up and start using the power of your mind, something you have already done to good effect by losing the 60 pounds or so thus far.

And if you want any respect out of me, not that you care, don't ever talk about suicide......not even as a joke, that's fucking straight up cowardice.
 
LOL Lutalyse and DNP are the last things you want to start out with for fatloss...
 
vinylgroover said:
And if you want any respect out of me, not that you care, don't ever talk about suicide......not even as a joke, that's fucking straight up cowardice.
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At the time I was talking of it, it wasn't as a joke...
And I do care about your respect... I respect you, and your opinion more than anyone else on this board because of your help to me thus far.
 
You want to use Speed when you have little money?

Don´t use Methamphetamine, you would probably go better with Adderal. It doesn´t produce the euphoria and is therefore less addictive. Also, the effect is more constant.
 
Drunken_Weasel said:
Who's in it, and what's it about?
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Jennifer Connely (sp?) and one of the Wayons brothers. Very dark movie and will definitely scare you from using Heroin. A lot of people say this movie fucked with their heads. I wouldnt say its quite that bad, but if you watched this movie while on any hard drugs, you'd probably go crazy. I watched it high off the green and I was like "WHAT...THE...FUCK". The last part of the movie is nuts. Very good movie though.
 
I have a pretty open mind about drugs, but using meth, especially in the state of mind you're in D_W, would be just begging for emotional agony. If you want to wind up curled up crying in a corner and contemplating painting the wall with your brains, do a long run of that shit and then come down.

I've posted a lot about Wellbutrin. It's a life changer man. Look into it. Even if you have to pay for it all out-of-pocket, it may very well be worth it since it will probably save you money in other ways and your life may be greatly improved.

Diet and exercise in themselves go a long way too. Keep doing that and stay the path, compadre. It will be worth it.

A few months from now, maybe you'll be able to look back on these posts and shake your head in disbelief think, "Man, those were some dark fuckin' times."
 
HALT

Never drink or do drugs if you are feeling the following:

Hunger
Anger
Loneliness
Tired

If you feel the need to drink or do drugs ask yoursefl if you are any of the above. If you answer yes to one of them, then do something else. Clean house, go running, go lifting, call a friend, look for a solution to the issue bothering you. (tired? - sleep; hungry? - eat; lonely? - learn to like yourself; angry? - release it)

It makes partying and having fun better when you're in the right frame of mind. Drugs and drinking will only postpone the inevitable confrontation with reality.
 
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