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Drug C75 better than DNP?

brownpaperbag04

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I've been reading up on stuff to take for a cutting cycle...I came across some crazy articles online about a new drug in development called C75. Apparently it's been tested on mice and the mice that took it lost 15% of their body weight in 2 weeks!!! It makes you not hungry and makes your metabolism go at full blast. Oh yeah, and the drug also kills cancer cells!!!

This drug should rival DNP in a big way I would think. Hopefully they'll be able to make a human version in a few years...
 
cmtuggl said:
I've been reading up on stuff to take for a cutting cycle...I came across some crazy articles online about a new drug in development called C75. Apparently it's been tested on mice and the mice that took it lost 15% of their body weight in 2 weeks!!! It makes you not hungry and makes your metabolism go at full blast. Oh yeah, and the drug also kills cancer cells!!!

This drug should rival DNP in a big way I would think. Hopefully they'll be able to make a human version in a few years...

Then it has to be a neuropeptide-Y blocker in the brain.

DNP raises your BMR by 50-70%, but also increase NP-Y considerably so that you feel hungry.

I'd love to know how they plan to raise a persons BMR by 50% and not make the person feel uncomfortable.

Fonz
 
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Fonz said:

I'd love to know how they plan to raise a persons BMR by 50% and not make the person feel uncomfortable.

Well, that's ....... impossible... Boosting your BMR has its effects on so many levels of your body that you can't really "select" all the side you want and therefore those that you don't want...

I personally think that "non-stimulatory" fat loss is the key. Think blocking adipocrytes to store fat :p
 
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Koivu_11 said:


Well, that's ....... impossible... Boosting your BMR has its effects on so many levels of your body that you can't really "select" all the side you want and therefore those that you don't want...

I personally think that "non-stimulatory" fat loss is the key. Think blocking adipocrytes to store fat :p

And then you get loose stools...or shit yourself.(Think Olestra)

Worse off, FFA blood levels would be sky-high.

Fonz
 
Compound C75 is an experimental anticancer drug, you wont get your hands on it for some time. It is an inhibitor of FAS or fatty acid synthase. It prevents your body from making fatty acids. Neuropeptide Y......i doubt it has any significance in this drugs effectiveness.

There are many malignancies that sythesize fatty acids at a much faster and larger rate than normal tissues......this drug blocks the fatty acid production killing the cell (i believe the fatty acids are essential in the replication of cell DNA, thus critical for survival).....the good thing is that this drug is highly selective on what it damages.....normal fast proliferating tissues (bone marrow/GI tract) are not damaged in anyway....in fact, the only damage is done to maliganant cells.

Another good thing about this drug is that while blocking FAS, there is an upregulation of another enzyme (its name escapes me) that tells the brain that the body is well fed....this means you can NOT eat, but also NOT suffer the effects from the starvation diet. You dont go catabolic and your michtochondria stay open all day and burn the fat you have instead of going into starvation mode and shutting down.

It is a form of a Butyrolactone (actually, its alpha-methylene-gamma-butyrolactone)....i have the instructions for making it, but alas, my skills as a chemist and lab equipment prevent me from making it.

Fonz, the good news about this is its non stimulatory and it isnt a "fat trapper"....

So its like this:
No making of more fat, no matter how much you eat.
Constant appitite supression with no "starvation mode".
Unchecked fat burning in michtochondria.


Sounds good to me.....

But even better....a Doctor Wakil is working on a different version that doesnt supress appitite so you can eat all day and not get fat (hes tinkering with the rate determining step in the reaction somewhere).

PS...its better than DNP.

Ill try to dig up more that i have on the other enzymes involved in appitite supression.....
 
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excellent post bigrand. if you are right about a drug that blocks fatty acid synthesis, then that could end the obesity epidemic. virtually everyone has lost weight at one time or another, people just have trouble keeping it off.
 
Im sure it will, thats why ive been all over this shit!
Ive talked a little with Dr JMW about it and he likes what Wakil is doing. He believes that the modified GH for fat loss thats in the works will be better (its already in human testing stages, so it has a leg up on C75)...but i feel that this is the ticket becasue it is as much a preventative measure for fat gain as it is a stimulatory for fat loss.
 
I've heard things about that KB drug too...but it seems C75 will be more effective since it makes the body do unthinkable things

...Bigrand do you have anymore info (links) on the modified GH so we can read up on it?
 
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