Drawing from 10cc vials,repeatedly.

[pompste]

Hi,just wondering if there is any risk of contamination of doing multi-draws from 10cc vials,since you have to inject air into the vial each time equivalent to what you draw.
Could the air you inject in actually contaminate the remaining gear in the vial?

Hopefully,the rubber stopper prevents any more air from getting in.
Thanks for any info.

 

[cswole]

First, wipe the stopper with alcohol everytime before drawing from the vial. Also, you don't HAVE to inject air into the vial, it just helps create pressure to make drawing easier. Don't draw with anything bigger than 20g.

 

[boops]

Hi,just wondering if there is any risk of contamination of doing multi-draws from 10cc vials,since you have to inject air into the vial each time equivalent to what you draw.
Could the air you inject in actually contaminate the remaining gear in the vial?

Hopefully,the rubber stopper prevents any more air from getting in.
Thanks for any info.

well im not sure about the air you inject in (never thought about that actually) good question but in regards to the top of the vial i always swab that with alcohol everytime....my main problem is the stopper getting chewed up from drawing with an 18g.....maybe someone will have an answer to your question, im interested to see an answer as well....

 

[cswole]

well im not sure about the air you inject in (never thought about that actually) good question but in regards to the top of the vial i always swab that with alcohol everytime....my main problem is the stopper getting chewed up from drawing with an 18g.....maybe someone will have an answer to your question, im interested to see an answer as well....

That's why I go 20g at biggest for drawing from multidose vials. 18g tends to drop rubber in there, don't want rubber getting injected in me! Plus, this allows the possibility for your gear to get contaminated.

 

[boops]

That's why I go 20g at biggest for drawing from multidose vials. 18g tends to drop rubber in there, don't want rubber getting injected in me! Plus, this allows the possibility for your gear to get contaminated.

yeah i stopped that after i ruined some fina i made when i noticed "floaties" in it....

 

[DannoMight]

Don't always stab in the same spot on the stopper. I haven't had any problems using an 18ga and poking a slightly different spot.

 

[Little Boy]

Good question about 'extra' air being left in the vial...when you put air in before you draw. Never thought of that.

 

[boops]

Good question about 'extra' air being left in the vial...when you put air in before you draw. Never thought of that.

yeah damned good question....im still stumped lol but then again thats not hard to do

 

[Indy]

Good question about 'extra' air being left in the vial...when you put air in before you draw. Never thought of that.

I've never had a problem with it, I always add air to make it easier to draw and knock on wood never had an abcess or any type of infection for that matter. I dont think it's a big deal, it's just air, and the alcohol in the gear probably kills anything in it while going thru the gear to rise to the top. Just my take.

Indy-

 

[boops]

I've never had a problem with it, I always add air to make it easier to draw and knock on wood never had an abcess or any type of infection for that matter. I dont think it's a big deal, it's just air, and the alcohol in the gear probably kills anything in it while going thru the gear to rise to the top. Just my take.

Indy-

yeah i have never had a problem when doing it as well just wanted to see if one of the more scientific bros had a more long winded answer or something along those lines.....

 

[monster2929]

BUMP indy, the BA in the gear solves the problem!!!!

 

[boops]

BUMP indy, the BA in the gear solves the problem!!!!

simple answer and hard for me to come up with on my own lol.....thanks bros...

 

[Ulter]

When I get a larger vial, 30ml, I just leave a syringe with the 18 in the top and unscrew the syringe when I am going to fill. With a 10ml it's easy just load all your syringes at the same time. So you have 5 prefills or 10 depending on your doses.

 

[djsf]

I have injected air and drawn multiple times from various 10ml vials (deca, test suspension, etc.) with never a problem. I suspect the amount of contaminants in the injected air is so small that either it has no effect on the body, or is immediately neutralized by the BA

 

[hardrock]

I dont sweat the air. Swab with rubbing alcohol and jab in different spot in the top each time. I use 18G to draw every time. No problems here.

 

[bigrand]

The inside of the vial is not a good enviornment for bacteria, no food, no air (unless you put anaerobes in there with the air you pump in, which isnt going to happen since they dont live in the presence of O2 anyway). I dont think you will have a problem.

 

[BigCracker]

When I get a larger vial, 30ml, I just leave a syringe with the 18 in the top and unscrew the syringe when I am going to fill. With a 10ml it's easy just load all your syringes at the same time. So you have 5 prefills or 10 depending on your doses.

This is a great idea. It would allow you to jab yourself with a pin that never had the chance of becoming a little dull from penetrating the rubber stopper.

As far as injecting air into the bottle goes, there's already air in the bottle that's sterility would be somewhat comprimised the moment you stab the bottle whether you deliberately squeeze air into it or not. So obviously it doesn't matter. Now if you're cooking crystal meth and you're filling your pins while there's toxic fumes in the air it might be a different story? However the toxic fumes in the air would likely cause more problems by inhaling them I think? I doubt many BB's run into this dillema though.

And as far as stopper contamination goes, water based roids like Winnie V or Test Suspension are more likely to contaminate via stopper than oil based ones. A lot of this probably has to do with the more frequent injections they require. Alcohol is your friend(for the stopper and injection site)-and I'm not talking about Jaegermeister. I think most guys that run into injection site probs are reusing the same pin they stuck in their ass to refill their dart numerous times. Naturally, a 50 ml multi dose vial you draw from 20x is more likely to become contaminated in this way than a 10 ml one that you only draw from 5x, but I'd still avoid reusing pins like this altogether.

In addition, I don't think guys rotate their injection sites often enough. If an injection site is still sore or inflamed from your last poke, I don't think hitting the same spot again is a good idea- at least until it feels normal again. Hitting it again while it's sore (and possibly in the earliest phase of infection)could actually cause it to fester instead of allowing it to fight off the infection on it's own.

And always wash your hands before playing Dr. You'd be surprised how much bacteria is on your unwashed hands at any given time.

 

[TRAINHD]

No need to worry about the air as the Bro's above stated the Benzyl Alcohol in the GEAR will sterilize it.Just remeber that your Gear has at least 2% BA in there.Hope this helps Bro

 

[doanekw]

I am taking microbiology right now (makes you pretty fucking paranoid while on cycle!) we open sterile Petri dishes in all the time to inoculate them, and I never get any contamination. When I asked my Prof why, she said there really aren’t that many microorganisms just floating around in the air, unless they are attached to dust or something. You shouldn’t have any problems unless you touch your sterile needle to something unsterile. Plus like bigrand said above the vial is a shitty environment for growth, worry about the needle and the rubber stopper.

 

[ALIN]

Hi,just wondering if there is any risk of contamination of doing multi-draws from 10cc vials,since you have to inject air into the vial each time equivalent to what you draw.
Could the air you inject in actually contaminate the remaining gear in the vial?

Hopefully,the rubber stopper prevents any more air from getting in.
Thanks for any info.

get some anti septic swabs and rub across vial.