Dr. JMW, question on when to begin PCT

[Slyder190]

You say begin HCG a week after last dose of AAS. This is unclear. If one is using Cyp, one waits 2 weeks after the last injection to begin PCT. If one is using Prop, they would wait 3 days. My cycle will end with prop and Winny. When should I begin PCT with HCG? A week after? Sooner?

 

[DrJMW]

I am clear. Do not wait as previously believed. Remember, HCG imitates the currently-suppressed LH. It quickly jumpstarts the testes to get them back to size. Current blood levels of AAS will not counteract the HCG. You use the Nolva to not only begin stimulation of the pituitary, but more importantly, to block the estrogen surge you will experience when you begin PCT. Remember, your estrogen levels are low during your AAS cycle (assuming you used an aromatase inhibitor). With any and all AAS, begin the PCT the week after the last AAS intake. Remember, your goal is to get your testes back to size as quickly as possible and it is done in the first three weeks of recovery. LH secretions will return quickly anyway as the AAS blood levels diminish. Everyone who has done recovery this way has recovered without problems.

What do our blood levels look like?

During our AAS cycle: high, exogenous AAS levels/low natural Testos levels; low LH, FSH, estradiol and prolactin. This profile fits the athlete using AAS with appropriate antiestrogens and antiprolactins.

During First three weeks of Recovery (HCG, nolva as recommended): Decreasing exogenous AAS blood levels/Increasing natural Testos levels; increasing testicular size; increasing estradiol/prolactin levels (this increase is controlled by nolva and natural hormonal response).

During next three weeks of Recovery: Normalizing, natural Testos levels; normalized testicular mass; normalized LH, FSH levels; normalized estradiol/prolactin levels.

By weeks seven, eight of recovery, you will be clean and close to your baseline.

 

[Slyder190]

Okay Doc, this is my question that is still left unclear...You say begina week after the last intake of AAS. But there's a difference if you're taking Cyp or Enan as compared to prop or suspension. If I'm using prop, do I wait a week? or do I wait 3 days as the norm for PCT following Prop? See what I'm asking? Thanks doc.

 

[DrJMW]

Again, it doesn't matter what AAS you are using. Forget about the old charts that tell you when to begin PCT. Begin the HCG/Nolva regimen the week after last AAS use, period.