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Down the Tubes with Dubya

Sushi X said:
they have a responsibility not to polute our water ways, our air and our drinking water. republicans feel it's more important to let them throw their trash anywhere and give them corporate welfare.

Is that really how republicans feel? Im sure their intentions are to pollute the country because even though they live here too, they "feel" its great to pollute our wonderful lands... :rolleyes:
 
VicTusDeuS said:


Is that really how republicans feel? Im sure their intentions are to pollute the country because even though they live here too, they "feel" its great to pollute our wonderful lands... :rolleyes:

REminder: Global warming.
 
Global warming?

Didn't a scientific study show that methane was the most harmful green-house gas in the atmosphere? And that the culprits for this production were dairy cows/farms?


OF COURSE! The cows are in it with the Republicans!

And here I was blaming it on those damn dirty apes...
 
Didn't Dubya deny the existence of global warming, receive a report that proved otherwise, grudgingly accepted it and said he wudn't gone do nuthin any ole way?
 
musclebrains said:
Didn't Dubya deny the existence of global warming, receive a report that proved otherwise, grudgingly accepted it and said he wudn't gone do nuthin any ole way?

Didn't University of Virginia's environmental scientist, Patrick Michaels, also state that the calculations used to predict the climate changes, proposed in the "2002 Climate Action Plan", was no better than a handful of random numbers?

June 4, 2002

Cato Expert Finds Federal Climate Study in Error

WASHINGTON-Today, President Bush downplayed a recent EPA report on global warming. According to the Associated Press, "'I read the report put out by the bureaucracy,' Bush said dismissively Tuesday..."

Patrick J. Michaels, senior fellow in environmental studies at Cato Institute and reviewer of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, said, "The report, the so-called 2002 Climate Action Plan, drew heavily from a previous report, the U.S. National Assessment of global warming, which was rushed to publication 10 days before the 2000 presidential election. That report was commissioned by Vice President Gore and Clinton science adviser John Gibbons, who hand-picked the senior scientists constituting the 'Synthesis Team.'"

Michaels, also a professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, reviewed both reports. He found that the two climate models used as the bases for each performed worse than a table of random numbers when applied to the history of United States temperatures as the greenhouse effect has changed. Michaels concluded, "Continued use of a scientific model that cannot replicate reality is counter to the most basic principle of science."

Even so, the National Assessment "Synthesis Team" chose to publicly ignore Michaels' criticism. In private, however, they repeated his calculation and found that the models indeed were no better than random numbers applied to the U.S. temperature history.

Of the 2002 Climate Action Plan, Michaels says, "It is clear that the integrity of science would have been better served if this report had never been released. But now that it has, it should focus public discussion on whether or not it is appropriate to use computer models that demonstrably do not work when making public policy."
 
ttlpkg said:


This is a blatant mischaracterization that sounds good to liberals. Many if not most Americans prefer bottled drinking water these days, and it is produced cheaply and readily available thanks to profitable corporations. Do you drink bottled water? Thank a corporation.


no i don't drink bottled water cause i see no point in paying 1-2 bucks for 12 oz of H2O when i can get it from a fountain or a sink for free. it's free to me anyways. why bring up a water bottling company? they don't pollute as much as iron working plants, steel plants, chemical companies, oil companies, car companies, and so on.

to respond about republicans and the environment, i did some reading and one thing they feel is the relationship between man and man is more important than that of man and nature therefore they have little concern for the environment. they seem to have little concern for the elderly too. instead they feel it more important to make a buck than to aid their fellow man. you can do both at the same time by the way, it just seems repubs are more concerned with not making the maximum amount possible. oneday they will be elderly too and in need of the same thing, then they will slap themselves for not seeing the big picture earlier in life and will then turn to the dems for their support of elderly assistance. :)
 
sushi, one quick yes or no question. do you believe in the constitutiion and what it stands for? this isnt a trick, im just curious.
 
do you see it as the definitive way on how our government should be run or do you see it as an obstacle?
 
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