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DOOM 3: How many here have a system able to do the game justice?

Burning_Inside

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I'm guessing not many. I guess if you're a hardcore gamer and want to be able to play the new games out this year the way they were meant to be played, this is the year to upgrade.

To run Doom 3 at its finest, you're talking an Athlon 64 FX-53 ($830), ABIT "AV8" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard ($120), 2 gigs of Corsair XMS DDR PC-3200 PRO ($800), and a high end graphics card for around say $400

It'll run ok on lesser systems but if you want the game to look its best then here you go. Hopefully by X mas this stuff will drop in price.
 
In February I bought a Dell 3Ghz 1Gig RAM PC with a Radeon 128Meg 9800 Pro video card for $1300. I'll run the game just fine.....
 
July 20, 2004, 8:26AM



COMPUTING
Gamers, check under hood because Doom 3 is coming
By DWIGHT SILVERMAN
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

If there's a gamer in your life, chances are you've noticed some strange behavior since last week.

There's that glassy stare, the twitchy hands, jumpiness, maybe even a little drooling and certainly some muttering. It's what happens when id Software says "It's done!" with its latest first-person-shooter title.

On Wednesday, Mesquite-based id announced that Doom 3, a much-higher-tech remake of the game that put it on the map, had gone gold. It will ship to stores Aug. 3.

In the gaming world, this is no minor event. Doom 3 has been in the works for four years and is built on id co-founder and chief programmer John Carmack's latest graphics technology.

Carmack's wizardry usually influences other developers, making a big impact on the future of PC gaming. And because id's titles are also released for consoles like the Sony Playstation and Microsoft's Xbox, they influence video games as well.

The last new-generation engine from id was introduced with Quake 3 in 1999, and previews of Doom 3 have hinted it's an even bigger leap forward. Players will be treated to near-cinematic images as they battle demons from Hell on Mars, provided they have the right hardware.

Each successive game pushes existing hardware limits, a tradition since the release of the original Doom, which introduced multiplayer death match gaming. College students in 1993 became obsessed with battling their dorm neighbors, to the point that many college networks buckled under the load.

A new id game has the potential to drive sales of both components and new PCs as gamers upgrade in preparation. Hardware makers are as excited as gamers.

Todd Hollenshead, id's chief executive, said Doom 3 will require:

• A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon 1500.
• 384 megabytes of memory.
• Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
• An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI Technologies 8500 or better.
If your existing rig doesn't meet these specs, here's a guide to beefing it up to play Doom 3 in all its gory glory.


• Graphics card. This is the best upgrade you can make for Doom 3. It's also where computer makers, looking to cut corners on mainstream systems, often wimp out.
Here's hoping the PC you own doesn't have a graphics adapter that borrows memory from the main system. So-called shared graphics notoriously choke on high-end games, and most budget systems don't include an AGP slot that lets you install a better card.

ATI Technologies and nVidia are the two biggest providers of graphics cards. As you move up either company's set of offerings, the results will improve. Cards at the top of the heap — nVidia's GeForce FX and newer 6800 series, or ATI's Radeon 9800 or newer X series — will provide the best experience and cost the most.

If you're upgrading, look for at least 128 MB of video memory in a card with Direct X 9.0 capability that installs into an AGP slot. Cards in the $150 to $200 range — such as a GeForce 5900XT or a Radeon 9600XT — will be a sweet spot.


• Memory. The 384 MB minimum may trip up a lot of systems. Many mainstream PCs in the last few years have come with 128 or 256 MB of memory. If you want to play Doom 3, more memory is better. I'd recommend 512 MB, and adding up to a gigabyte would be smart.

Check with the maker of your PC to see what type of memory it requires. Prices varies depending on the source and type, but use $50 per 128 MB as a benchmark.


• Hard drive. This is one category that may not require an upgrade at all — just some spring cleaning on your part.

If your hard drive is nearing capacity, take some time to clear off at least twice as much space as the game requires. That means you'll need at least 4 GB free.

Of course, if you're down to your last few gigs, you probably should buy a new drive. Get the biggest you can afford, with at least 7,200 revolutions per minute. You'll pay in the $80 range for a 120-GB Enhanced IDE drive or around $95 for a Serial ATA model.


• Processor. Although this is harder to upgrade, it's key to your Doom 3 experience. The minimum may be 1.5 GHz, but you'll probably want at least a 2-GHz Intel Pentium or equivalent AMD Athlon chip. The ideal is 3 GHz or better.

But if you do need a new chip, unless you take joy in swapping out a motherboard or building your own system, Doom 3 is probably as good an excuse as any to buy a new PC.
 
Specialbear said:
is DOOM3 multiplayer?


2 on 2 or maybe 4 on 4. It does have excellent modability that will enable higher numbers but at this time no.

And those figure above are about the min to play the game. Sure your 3ghz proc is fine but that 128mb video card isn't near enough power to play it with max settings.
 
so why is doom 3 better than doom 2 again? graphics, scenery, etc. don't matter if gameplay is the same ol' rehashed "shoot the monsters" crap.
 
Razorguns said:
so why is doom 3 better than doom 2 again? graphics, scenery, etc. don't matter if gameplay is the same ol' rehashed "shoot the monsters" crap.

Exactly. It's eycandy to the max but some people have said that it's scary as hell. So if you're into that type of game, it's definitely a must have
 
Razorguns said:
so why is doom 3 better than doom 2 again? graphics, scenery, etc. don't matter if gameplay is the same ol' rehashed "shoot the monsters" crap.
Trolley car Vs. rollercoaster. Both run on railways, one's a lot more fun. More power to make games today = potential for a game that's more of an "experience" playing on your senses rather than something generic. This is what makes it better.

You agree that cars of today are better than 80 years ago?
 
Delinquent said:
2 on 2 or maybe 4 on 4. It does have excellent modability that will enable higher numbers but at this time no.

And those figure above are about the min to play the game. Sure your 3ghz proc is fine but that 128mb video card isn't near enough power to play it with max settings.

Your judging card power on memory ammount. Any game will run better on a 9800pro at 128mb vs. 9600 at 256mb. Hell the even getting 256 on the 9800pro has only added 1-3% increase at a cost of 40-100 dollars more.

I can't even play UT2004 yet, still waiting on new video card.
 
Burning_Inside said:
Trolley car Vs. rollercoaster. Both run on railways, one's a lot more fun. More power to make games today = potential for a game that's more of an "experience" playing on your senses rather than something generic. This is what makes it better.

You agree that cars of today are better than 80 years ago?

I don't know. Sounds too much like sales rhetoric to me.

How many more 9 billion FPS games do we need on the PC??
 
Razorguns said:
I don't know. Sounds too much like sales rhetoric to me.

How many more 9 billion FPS games do we need on the PC??

As many as it takes to eventually evolve their way to the inevitable, which is virtual reality.
 
the requirements is redonkeylous.
i got a 1.7ghz amd processor and 1024mb of DDR ram and some other good shit. my brother is computer science major, was at least, he graduated.

now he works in a huge computer security company. he is always getting super dope stuff for our comps.
 
Right now I'm running this...

2400+
512 PC2100
Radeon 9200SE



Come September upgrading to this...

AMD 3500+
1 gig Mushkin pc3200
Asus A8V
6800 GT (OC'ed to Ultra Speeds)
Audigy 2 ZS Gamer
74 Gig Raptor II
 
By the way, 25% done with doom right now so I will check it tomorrow. Hopefully it is at least playable.
 
Razorguns said:
so why is doom 3 better than doom 2 again? graphics, scenery, etc. don't matter if gameplay is the same ol' rehashed "shoot the monsters" crap.
not really, i love the mindless carnage. one of my fave games (fair enough you can only play it for 20 minutes then you get sick of it) is Serious Sam ;)

i wont even attempt it on my system. my bro in law just bought the most expensive, high end dell laptop (desktop replacement) you can buy, so ill use htat now and again i suppose. sure it still wont be the best, but itll be good enough

either that or im going to play it on a projector
 
Then go get it, and show me some screenshots.

MrMuscle said:
how is that relevant?
it might not be out til tomorrow..but trust me when i say its out.
its all over dc++
 
i am dl it. but it seems im not the only one.
cant wait for it to be out here, cuz it wont be out untill 17.august
 
I generally buy my games, just because I know there is hard work and angst that goes into creating one.

But I never liked the first two, and will wait for Half-Life 2. It looks way better anyway.

MrMuscle said:
i am dl it. but it seems im not the only one.
cant wait for it to be out here, cuz it wont be out untill 17.august
 
yeah i got a free copy of hl2 with my graphic card..but seeing as it isnt out yet there was only a code in the box. so when it comes out i can dl it for free.
 
agree with Code...

I love PC gaming.. it doenst bother me on ebit to buy a game. Got to do my art to keep the industry alive.

Considering a game like Doom 3 wil give me hundreds or hourse of enjoyment.. 50 dollars is just a drop in the bucket.
 
I buy maybe 5 games a year, unless it sucks ass, I usually get 50+ hours out of a game.

Thats less than a dollar an hour, much less than a movie or something similar.
 
OMFG teh install scr33n!!1
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most people say 'fuck it, cd's only cost $9 so why pay so much for games?' ignoring the fact that the price is high because the market's so small and production costs are so high & the publishers take so much

I never buy bad games only ones I know are gonna be good, so I pay for them

my pc is too weak for d3 :(

Milo Hobgoblin said:
agree with Code...

I love PC gaming.. it doenst bother me on ebit to buy a game. Got to do my art to keep the industry alive.

Considering a game like Doom 3 wil give me hundreds or hourse of enjoyment.. 50 dollars is just a drop in the bucket.
 
I have no problems buying a game if it's good. It beats all the shit you have to go through to get a ripped version of it. Gonna gets me some Doom 3 Wednesday morning at Best Buy. Got a gift card that's been collecting dust since Chrimmus waiting for it to come out.
 
ok heres some screens for ya's.

The game runs surprisingly good for my system. I have 1 gig of ddr ram (forget exact specs but it was the most expensive you could buy about 8 months ago, from Corsair). amd xp1800 which really only runs at 1533 mhz, and a radeon 9600 pro gpu.

The lighting and stuff in the game is great, even for my system. I took some screens below of shots with and without the flashlight on. The game so far is real dark and gloomy, in an industrial factory setting. The NPC models look really good and I imagine would look even better with a better system. The mouths seem to do a decent job of lip synching also. These shots were taken on medium graphics setting. There's 2 more settings above medium I believe.

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