Done The Reaserrch - Need to Work Out Kinks

[skins420]

I am a 27yr Old Male, standing at 5’6”, weighing in at 175lbs. I am a gym rat, who eats healthy, works hard, and I have the desire to take my training regimine to the next level. I have used anabolics three to four times over the past five years with good results but I haven't really been totally satisfied. Could be the combination of bad or inexpensive gear, or a bad source. Now I have the $$$ and the source to make things really happen but I need some basic advice.

I have been researching this site and others for the past few months trying to get tips on a new workout, diet, and anabolic regimen and I could use some help from anyone who is willing to help me work out the kinks. My goal is to gain some good lean mass and trim down some excess bf. Remember I'm short is stature so a 10-20lbs. goes a long way. I know most cycles are either for bulking or cutting but I've seen some suggestions that combine different anabolics to get the desired combined effect, which I am looking for.

The last time I used anabolics I took 300mgs of EQ, 200mgs Test, every week for 10 weeks and I started off with 30mgs of Anavar for the first 4 weeks. I know this is not a huge cycle but it was my first in over 1.5yrs and I wanted to gain about 10lbs. of lean mass before planning for the next BIG CYCLE.

There have a been a few threads that I noticed with the following combinations and I wanted to see what your thoughts were on which one would provide me with the desired results I'm looking for (obviously combined with a tough training and diet regimine).

Test P EOD / Trenbolone A EOD / Winstrol ED Oral

Sustanon E3D / Deca E3D / D-Bol Beginnning / Winstrol Finish

Trenbolone E EW / Equipose EW / Winstrol ED Oral

Was thinking about buying a kit of HGH to try in amidst the cycle to gain some pep in my step and burn some fat in the mid section. Do you think this is a good idea?

Would like to avoid steroids that promote hair loss and bloating so keep that in mind. Obviously I would have the proper Ant-E's and Post Cycle Therapies throughout, I don't need advice on that. Any thoughts or comments on the cycle would be appreciated though. Props to anyone who is willing to help me. I’ve put a lot of time and research into this topic and any help from experienced bodybuilders or experts would be deeply appreciated!

Was thinking about buying a kit of HGH to try in amidst the cycle to gain some pep in my step and burn some fat in the mid section. Do you think this is a good idea?

 

[mattdan]

Of the three you note number one would get you the best results for what you want IMHO. You could sub dbol for the wi nny if you want. Either would be good, d bol is cheaper and very effective. D bol is better for mass, winny is better for cutting (both are good for either tho).

HGH? Save your money unless you have it to burn. Wayyyy to fuggin expensive for the results.

 

[Acela]

i think the 3rd one would get you very shredded and dry with the right diet. i also think there would be major cock malfunction as well

maybe add some prop?

 

[rambleon]

No 1 or
No 3 + test

 

[xrsist]

Test P EOD / Trenbolone A EOD / Winstrol ED Oral

maybe do ED tho if that suits you, to help with sides

prop 75mg-100mg ED
tren a 50mg ED
winny 50mg ED

8 weeks with a proper diet and training would yeld nice results.. use the winny the last 6 weeks

 

[skins420]

thanks for all the help guys.

 

[navigatorrs]

I love your first cycle. Thats exactly what i will be running in a few months. Keep us posted on your decision.

 

[pound for pound]

First off, the first thing you should look at when you have disappointing results with a cycle is your diet. At 175 you've got a lot of room to grow. IMO I would stick with either a cutting cycle or a bulking cycle. Tren can actually allow you to grow while on a caloric deficit although, it is one of the strongest anabolics around so, the sides will also be a factor. Tren is not usually for the begginer but it sounds like you have a couple of cycles under your belt. That being said, considering you are looking to stay away from bloat, your shorter esters are going to be the way to go. Personally, I'd go with test c 500 mg/wk with a test p 50 mg a day kick start for the first 3 weeks. Eat like a horse, a clean diet with 2 grams of protein per day per lb. of body weight. Until you stop getting results with test, there is no reason to change/add compounds.

GH is good for fatloss but at longer runs, such as 4-6 months. You will grow new muscle cells which are permanent. You then can develop those cells naturally or through the use of gear.

hope some of this helps

 

[skins420]

I came across some Anavars at a cheap price and got them. 200 @ 10mgs. I probably will use those to jumpstart my cycle. With that in mind and the advice I've already gotten does anyone have any advice on which cycle I should add them to? I'm leaning toward cycle #3, but not taking the Winny tabs until the end of the cycle because I don't want to eat too many orals in this cycle. Any suggestions on dosages???? Thanks for all the help bros!!