Does YES act like a dieretic?

[starskulker]

I just started using YES last about 5 days ago and am now noticing that I am pissing quite frequently now. Like I was retaining water and now it's leaving me all of a sudden. Only thing is I'm not on a cycle that makes you retain alot of water. Test E, Tren E, and EQ. I thought it might be the YES that is making me dump all this water all of a sudden. Is it?

 

[mikefear]

there are diuretic factors in it.. are you using a lot of it?

 

[starskulker]

3 on the abs, 2 on each oblique, 4 on the chest and 1 on the chin

 

[mikefear]

10 pumps is a lot, you may be getting a systemic effect because of the high dose

 

[starskulker]

What exactly does "systemic effect" mean?

 

[NURSEPIMP]

learn.caim.yale.edu:

Local vs Systemic Health Effects

A Local effect refers to an adverse health effect that takes place at the point or area of contact. The site may be skin, mucous membranes, the respiratory tract, gastrointestinal system, eyes, etc. Absorption does not necessarily occur. Examples: strong acids or alkalis.

Systemic effect refers to an adverse health effect that takes place at a location distant from the body's initial point of contact and presupposes absorption has taken place. Examples: arsenic effects to the blood, nervous system, liver, kidneys and skin; benzene effects to the bone marrow.

Substances with systemic effects often have "target organs" in which they accumulate and exert their toxic effect.

Some substances that cause systemic effects are cumulative poisons. These substances tend to build up in the body as a result of numerous chronic exposures. The effects are not seen until a critical body burden is reached. Example: heavy metals such as lead.

When exposure occurs to several substances simultaneously the resultant systemic toxic effect may be significantly greater in combination than the additive toxic effect of each substance alone. This is called a synergistic or potentiating effect. Example: exposure to alcohol and chlorinated solvents; or smoking and asbestos.


Hope that helped.
Typically any weight loss product will have dieretic characteristics and you are taking alot. So it seems likely that it may be the sudden cause.
-NP

 

[macrophage69alpha]

thats not really a good definition of local vs. systemic, except when it comes to adverse effects.

local effects are those that take place at the site and in surrounding tissues, systemic effects are due to uptake of active drugs and their metabolites into the plasma (blood stream) and subsequent systemic distribution.

 

[starskulker]

So does this mean it's a bad thing and I should lower my dosage a bit?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

no. dosage is fine.

are you using an AI? because test will cause you to retain water.

 

[medrep]

holy sh*#$& i can barely handle the smell of 3 squirts that stuff is potent!

 

[starskulker]

Yes I'm using AIFM at 2 squirts in the morning and 2 in the evening.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

are you exfoliating? (to get optimal uptake with AIFM)
you may also have some E related water (AIFM suppresses estrogen, it does not eliminate it).

though Yohimburn ES does have diuretic effects so some extra water loss is normal

 

[starskulker]

That's the weird thing. I am already way leaner by using the AIFM and do not notice any water retention as it is but as soon as I started with the YES I started releasing even more water. Maybe it's the "E" related water leaving I guess.

 

[NURSEPIMP]

thats not really a good definition of local vs. systemic, except when it comes to adverse effects.

local effects are those that take place at the site and in surrounding tissues, systemic effects are due to uptake of active drugs and their metabolites into the plasma (blood stream) and subsequent systemic distribution.

In regards to what I posted I didnt want it to sounds negative. I assumed it would be understood as to local and systemic being adverse or not. Didnt mean to misinform.

I apologize if it sounded mis directed.

I also forgot to mention I cannot wait to try this product.

Also, even though you may not seem to be holding water, you probably still are a bit and the YES is pissing it away for you

-NP

 

[macrophage69alpha]

not at all, that is a standard definition as applies to drug accumulation and adverse events contexts. Its just not reflective of local vs. systemic in the context of effectiveness and delivery.