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goku_kakarot77
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depends on the individual, i took tren e had no sides what so ever except for shortness of breath i tough i was going to die at times lol
Does Tren enan have milder sides than Acetate?
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Big_Joe
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My first tren experience was with tri tren and I had no sides at all. Then I used tren A and had them all. Now getting tri tren is difficult so I mix trea A with Tren E and have no sides. I suspect for some the side effects come from the rapidly fluctuating blood levels. When you mix Tren A & E this tends to level out the fluctuations so you get less sides. Well at lest I do.
cobracock1979
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I have only tried tren e - virtually no sides. My sleeping improved if anything
Burpees
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Chocolate_Thunder said:
I don't suggest anyone do what I do. I made it seem like it was for a second cycle because I don't need anyone to make my decision for me, what I want is the most unbiased opinions to work with. I started at 500mg of Cyp and cruised up to 750mg. I started on 400mg of Tren A and went up to 700mg. I don't plan to come off yet, it's not set in stone but i'm leaning towards at least another 12 weeks of 750mg Test. It was planned as an 84 day cycle, I'm on day 67 exactly. If I continue, I plan to run a few more compounds and possibly use up to 1000mg of Test. Yes, this is my first cycle. I didn't go balls to the wall from the start, or decide to do this when I signed up here.. Ive been learning and discussing, and talking to folks about it for damn near 4 years now. I'm very much aware of the _possible_ side effects, becoming sterile is what worries me most - if I already didn't have two kids - and a scheduled vasectomy coming up.. I'm also an advocate for DNP use. I also hope to get ready to be on stage in 18-24 months. I have my goals, and my priorities..I've come a long way and have much further to go, drugs are part of it for now.. I'm 26 but I don't plan to be this dedicated and on the edge much more than 2-3 years. My life is already going where it needs to, and I know i'm not going pro..just something I need to do for myself, and do it the best I can. Anyway, thanks for the concerns.. I'll let you know on what I decide to do come day 84, and how it turns out after if I do decide to stay on at a high dose.
I think the biggest reason that Tren E has less sides for many people is the more even blood levels. Many people advocate shooting Tren A daily to keep blood levels stable because the acetate ester is so short (half life ~2 days). Now Tren E has a half life of ~10 days so if you shoot twice a week it would be like shooting once or even twice a day of Tren A = Super stable blood levels.
Burpees
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Bruce said:
It was a comparison.. Khemix reacts to E like most people react to A.. Personally I haven't used E, but I've ran Ace at 100mg ED. Who said PCT is mandatory? People have been cycling for years before PCT was even thought of, and they were all fine - well most. Some folks do PCT and never come back to their normal selfs..
EDIT: heh.. Just realized Khemix posted.
Chocolate_Thunder
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Burpees said:
WOOOOOAH. Hang on a minute. You're trying to justify what your doing to me. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO. You can do whatever you want. I was just pointing out how you tell someone to keep doses low, and then your talking about running over 1.5g.
Even IF you started at 500mg test a week, that is more than enough for a first cycle. A first cycle should contain one and only one aas to see how you respond to it.
If you feel the need to do more than by all means go for it. It's not the smartest or safest route but you said you've been researching for 4 years so you must know what you're doing?
Burpees
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Chocolate_Thunder said:
By you pointing out that I want to do one thing, but advocate something else it forces me to explain. I know this is an open forum, so it's not like I can tell you one thing and say something else to another person and expect nobody will notice. Since you brought it up, I have to break down my plan and thoughts.. I know what I'm doing, but definitely learning more while I'm doing it so I'm feeling it out as I go. Nobody can know everything, and we both know a lot of opinion goes into this science. I still have almost 2 weeks left in my cycle, stretching it out 2-4 more weeks for the sake of clearing out the Tren w/ just Test isn't a big deal. I may still do that..start my PCT and wrap it up till Jan.. Quite honestly, it's not where I'm leaning to.. We'll see what the doctor tells me 14 days after the Tren is done..EDIT: What im getting at is i'm not offended, I hope you weren't either? I don't think you were but I think you may think you offended me?
(no homo) 
Chocolate_Thunder
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Burpees said:
EDIT: What im getting at is i'm not offended, I hope you weren't either? I don't think you were but I think you may think you offended me?
No not at all. Just trying to understand. I would wait at least 2 months after your PCT to get your blood work done. That way your body has time to adjust and get back to normal levels.
Burpees said:What im getting at is i'm not offended, I hope you weren't either? I don't think you were but I think you may think you offended me?
Heh thats why I hate text so much. You lose tons of context and it's hard to tell how people meant something when they write. I think many arguments stem from that. Good thing you guys kissed and made up
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