Does this still apply?

[wesley90]

Obviously if you dont EAT enough cals, your body is gonna break down muscle in order to get the nutrients needed for normal bodily functions...but what about exersizing those extra cals off...does your body still go into deprevation mode if you BURN it off instead of starve yourself?
Thanks.

 

[Apexx]

yes. calorie deficient is calorie deficient. Doesn't matter if they were burned off or never there in the first place.

 

[wesley90]

Im not arguing that...I am wondering if by keeping yourself out of starvation (500cals + BMR) would keep you from burning more muscle than if you did eating lets say at your BMR, but burning the same amount of cals...heh hard to explain...here is an example...

Assume BMR is 2000

High cal example with cardio:
2500 cals consumed
1000 cals burned in cardio

So the total amount burned just by cardio would put you in a 500 cal deficet not including other daily activities, which would proably put you over the 1000 cal mark.

Low cal example:
2000 cals consumed
500 cals burned during cardio

This would net the same amount of cals burned, but you are cutting off nutrients from your body and starving it.

What I am questioning is wehter or not you can eat well above your BMR, do a shit load of cardio, and not lose muscle because your body isnt starving...

Or...does doing cardio put you into starvation if it goes over a certain amount?

 

[wesley90]

Heres an example for me...

I weight 240 lbs, 24% BF.
My BMR is 2,161
Total Daily Expendecture is 3,725

So if I kept my cals at 2600, and did lifting 4 days a week and 1000 cals a day of cardio, I would be in a total 16,549 calorie deficite. That is roughly 4 pounds a week to lose. Now, for cutting, 2600 cals is quite a bit I believe, but because I am eating that much I am saving my muscle.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Heres an example for me...

I weight 240 lbs, 24% BF.
My BMR is 2,161
Total Daily Expendecture is 3,725

So if I kept my cals at 2600, and did lifting 4 days a week and 1000 cals a day of cardio, I would be in a total 16,549 calorie deficite. That is roughly 4 pounds a week to lose. Now, for cutting, 2600 cals is quite a bit I believe, but because I am eating that much I am saving my muscle.

All i know is that you need to loose ~40 lbs. of fat

 

[Ulter]

It's going to take your muscle last. Keep your protein intake up, use steroids, no worries.

 

[roidpuple]

Heres an example for me...

I weight 240 lbs, 24% BF.
My BMR is 2,161
Total Daily Expendecture is 3,725

So if I kept my cals at 2600, and did lifting 4 days a week and 1000 cals a day of cardio, I would be in a total 16,549 calorie deficite. That is roughly 4 pounds a week to lose. Now, for cutting, 2600 cals is quite a bit I believe, but because I am eating that much I am saving my muscle.

1000 cal a day of cario?? are you saying like running on a treadmill ..and the machine says you burned 1000 calories... ?? I mean is that what you are going by... I will just run till it says i burned 1000 cal.??

 

[yatesolympia]

1000 cal a day of cario?? are you saying like running on a treadmill ..and the machine says you burned 1000 calories... ?? I mean is that what you are going by... I will just run till it says i burned 1000 cal.??

Hehe a 1,000 calories on a tread mill is like running cross country.

 

[wesley90]

Yep, I just ran 6.13 miles in 65 minutes and I am 240 pounds

 

[wesley90]

It's going to take your muscle last. Keep your protein intake up, use steroids, no worries.

And if I dont use steroids...?

 

[roidpuple]

Yep, I just ran 6.13 miles in 65 minutes and I am 240 pounds

Wow man thats great...
but just so you know just because that machine says you burned 1000 doesnt really mean you did... I mean you weight the same when you get on the treadmill as you did when you get off.... right..
I mean sure you are rasing you body temp .... and you will burn caleries for the rest of the day..... but when it says you burned that many caleries you may through out the day... burn a Hell of a lot of caleries... but i wouldent be to sure it was 1000

 

[Makavelli]

Don't know if this helps, but when I diet as I am now for a show, I like to keep my calories as high as possible and use cardio to burn off bodyfat. When employing AAS they have a repartitioning effect. Therefore the calories will be used to build and maintain muscle. This state causes the body to use bodyfat for fuel. Tren is the best at this. That's why you're metabolism fires up while using it. Food for thought....

 

[biggsben]

I don't know what your going to be doing for the 1000Kcal of cardio but that seem s like a lot of cardio, maybe I don't know but if your trying to do that at one time you might be thinking your burning more then your are, especially as a larger guy with some fat to get rid of. you burn less cal then you think with those machines they def overshoot what your burning

 

[wesley90]

Um, ok, well that would average around 6 miles per hour, and an online calc estimates 1100 calories...so yeah, its a 100 calorie overshoot...

 

[wesley90]

Wow man thats great...
but just so you know just because that machine says you burned 1000 doesnt really mean you did... I mean you weight the same when you get on the treadmill as you did when you get off.... right..
I mean sure you are rasing you body temp .... and you will burn caleries for the rest of the day..... but when it says you burned that many caleries you may through out the day... burn a Hell of a lot of caleries... but i wouldent be to sure it was 1000

And why not? What makes you think that it wouldnt be 1000 cals?

 

[biggsben]

If your using another form of Kcal measurment then the machine then it's probly ok, the cardio machine manufatcurer's will alot of times make the machine tell you that your burning more calories then you are to make their machine seem better.

 

[wesley90]

I checked 3 other sources.