Does This Make You Feel Good????

[huntmaster]

lies, what the fuck are you talking about?

look here you piece of shit, dont call someone a dumbass for having moral beliefs. take your fucking philosophy and get the fuck off this board, you three dollar bill.

call me the fuck whatever you wanna call me, that shit is sick, and it has no place in our society, you might feel different one day if your teenage son gets it from one of these crazies.

they deserve death and if you wanna stand up for them then you deserve death, so fuckyou and your philosophy! moron.

as far as im concerned, if nambla or you was in my face preaching one bit of this shit, you better prepare to fight to the death.

sponge.

Sponge---your the man.

Well said my friend.

 

[Zirakzigil]

this is about a published artice, not private thoughts.

spin, spin, spin

So if I write something down and it becomes published, I can be prosecuted for my thought? Really, do tell. Explain your view in completeness. Don't give me one liners. If you can't explain it, I will assume you are replying out of emotion and not logic. Hint, your view should NOT consist solely of "he should die because he wrote down perverted shit" or you are a fascist and therefore an idiot.

 

[dballer]

SHUT UP NOW!!!

People don't always act on their thoughts. Ever felt like you just wanted to hit someone but didn't? Ever felt like you just wanted to tell some bitch off, but didn't? The set of all actions a person does is a proper subset of the set of all their desires.



Think about this logically.

BOSTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union will represent a group that advocates sex between men and boys in a lawsuit brought by the family of a slain 10-year-old.

The family of Jeffrey Curley of Cambridge said the North American Man/Boy Love Association and its website which is now offline incited the attempted molestation and murder of the boy on Oct. 1, 1997.

One of two men convicted in the killing, Charles Jaynes, 25, reportedly viewed the group's website shortly before the killing, and also had in his possession some of NAMBLA's publications. Also convicted in the killing was 24-year-old Salvatore Sicari.

The ACLU said the case, filed in federal court in mid-May, involves issues of freedom of speech and association.

"For us, it is a fundamental First Amendment case," John Roberts, executive director of the Massachusetts branch of the ACLU, told Boston Globe Wednesday. "It has to do with communications on a website, and material that does not promote any kind of criminal behavior whatsoever."

ACLU officials said NAMBLA members deny encouraging coercion, rape or violence.

Attorney Lawrence Frisoli, who represents the Curleys, said he is glad the ACLU is defending NAMBLA, because he has had trouble locating the group's members.

Harvey Silverglate, an ACLU board member, said Wednesday that the group's attorneys will try to block any attempt by the Curleys to get NAMBLA's membership lists, or other materials identifying members.

The ACLU also will act as a surrogate for NAMBLA, allowing its members to defend themselves in court while remaining anonymous.According to the Globe, NAMBLA officials in the past have said their main goal is the abolition of age-of-consent laws that classify sex with children as rape.

At two separate trials last year, prosecutors said Jaynes and Sicari were sexually obsessed with the boy, lured him from his Cambridge neighborhood with the promise of a new bike, and then smothered him with a gasoline-soaked rag when he resisted their sexual advances. They then stuffed him into a concrete-filled container and dumped it into a Maine river.

Sicari, convicted of first-degree murder, is serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole. Jaynes' second-degree murder and kidnapping convictions enable him to seek parole in 23 years.

The Curleys last week were awarded $328 million by a superior court jury in a civil suit against Jaynes and Sicari.

 

[dballer]

that article has me soo mad... I cannot see straight.

I am going down to midtown to cause some terror.

 

[Zirakzigil]

dballer, you have no point. I said, the set of all actions is a proper subset of the set of all thoughts a person has. There are always thoughts one does not act on. If some people acted, or tried to act, on those thoughts, fine, throw the book at them. If people are merely writing down their ideas, they should not be punished, no matter how heinous the thoughts they write.

I think you people would feel more comfortable in the 1930's Soviet Union, or Europe before the Enlightenment.

 

[dballer]

I think you people would feel more comfortable in the 1930's Soviet Union, or Europe before the Enlightenment.

Or in Texas.. 1953

 

[spongebob]

Fine. I'm saying right now, I think little boys are sexy and I'd like to fuck one. Should I be killed?

spin all you want. but you know damn well theres a difference between what you are doing right now and that essay that was written. the nambla organization is sick.

I want to go kick this dude in my gym's ass. Should I be arrested for aggravated battery?


People don't always act on their thoughts. Ever felt like you just wanted to hit someone but didn't? Ever felt like you just wanted to tell some bitch off, but didn't? The set of all actions a person does is a proper subset of the set of all their desires.

Not to mention, how do you tell what someone is thinking?

Think about this logically.

how do i tell??? they write it down and have a website.

im telling you, now listen closely, any member of nambla should be arrested. fuck free speech. its that simple to me.

what do you think would happen if i had a website that talked about killing the president???

in life, there are some things that should be based on emotions not logic or what your liberal college professor shovels into your head and this is one of them, that is my opinion.

 

[buddy28]

wow.

good post dballer.

I can see Zirakzigil's point.

But, on the otherhand, Canada has enacted hate laws which outlaw the publish of written material that depricates a specific ethnic, religous, or social groups.

Its a tough issue because once we give the government the right to determine governing morality, and codify it, our civil liberities become jepordized.

on the otherhand, i dont know why the aclu's defending the pedophile site. Stupid, stupid move.

And the family got 328 million!!?! Holy shit thats a lot of dough.

 

[Warik]

Interesting.

Some are criticized for wanting these people put to death.

Others are criticized for respecting their right to free speech.

I will compromise.

I believe that they should have every legal right to say what they are saying - until a legion of angry fucking fathers of adolescent boys brutally murders all of them!

-Warik

 

[Zirakzigil]

how do i tell??? they write it down and have a website.

im telling you, now listen closely, any member of nambla should be arrested. fuck free speech. its that simple to me.

Fuck free speech? I guess there is nothing left to say. If you do not see the reason that thinking people will protect free speech with their lives, then you need to read more philosophy and history. Preferably history of Europe, 1677 to present. Read some Thomas Paine. These people were intelligent people, and they were willing to die for their freedom of speech. I guess they were just wrong, huh?

My last thought here - I will repeat: no one should be prosecuted for their thoughts or their words.