Does real Igf-1 exist ?

[HGH man]

I've been going thru my notes as I do and I wondered ,who has done Igf-1 and really seen an increase of muscle ? It just seems like every Joe blow is out there selling it and people buying it are just disapointed after a while. It seems like there is no true form of it. Some guys swear that that they gained 10 or 20# from the research companies and others swear the 2-part are they way to go. Trying to put this all together and make a decision. I say if you can get the powder and bactro water ,that's the best way to go. Anybody ?

 

[ocisbomb]

Bump. VERY curious.

 

[Mr.X]

I've been going thru my notes as I do and I wondered ,who has done Igf-1 and really seen an increase of muscle ? It just seems like every Joe blow is out there selling it and people buying it are just disapointed after a while. It seems like there is no true form of it. Some guys swear that that they gained 10 or 20# from the research companies and others swear the 2-part are they way to go. Trying to put this all together and make a decision. I say if you can get the powder and bactro water ,that's the best way to go. Anybody ?

I don't want to give you a subjective view because IGF-1 R3 Receptor grade has done wonders for me; HOWEVER, you're right I DID NOT GAIN A LOT of muscle. Basically, I shed a LOT of bodyfat, while gaining at least a few lbs. of muscle, I've seen about 6-8lbs. gain on average in about 2 1/2 months and a great bodyfat loss. Yet, take this into account, if you ever use GH for 2-3 months you'll see that results are minimal (I used GH for 12 months before I really saw long-term changes) vs. IGF where I saw changes almost right away (within 10days).

Like Clen, IGF doesn't work the SAME for everyone. It seems that different people get different results. My view is that some people that are buying media grade that's unstable (reconstituted before you get it) are probably getting a bunk product. If you read some of the IGF manufacturer's websites they don't recommend shaking the reconstituted product, so the way I figure it is that when these companies send you already reconstituted media grade IGF and it's shaken and thrown around in shipping, that's probably where the main problem is. That's why I personally stick to lyophilized powder (white dry powder) Receptor grade IGF, I feel a lot more safe with a product that's more stable during shipping IMO.

Mr.X

 

[Dial_tone]

I was going to get 6 GH kits; now i'm considering just doing IGF-1 instead. I'll decide after I finish my first gram of igf-1.

 

[HGH man]

Gh is a nice product,it helps you lose fat and put on muscle.I think Igf-1 would do the same thing. I would like to do low dosage of Igf-1 (lyophilized) for a long time along with my GH to actually see if any fat lose would take place. I'd be interested in lowering my GH(3ius ED) and sticking to Igf-1 instead,that way you should see the best of both worlds.

 

[x_muscle]

studies on IGF-1 in humans, they used 100-300mg of igf-1 per day in order to see improvement in skeletal muscle. now i dont think anyone can afford this.

beer in mind our bodies produse 5mg of IGF-1 daily, so i dont think 30mcg will do anything in term of muscle gains.

 

[Mr.X]

Gh is a nice product,it helps you lose fat and put on muscle.I think Igf-1 would do the same thing. I would like to do low dosage of Igf-1 (lyophilized) for a long time along with my GH to actually see if any fat lose would take place. I'd be interested in lowering my GH(3ius ED) and sticking to Igf-1 instead,that way you should see the best of both worlds.

I like the idea of lowering the dose of GH and putting IGF in there. I've seen people run a full stack of GH/IGF/INSULIN with some amazing results.

Mr.X

 

[Makavelli]

studies on IGF-1 in humans, they used 100-300mg of igf-1 per day in order to see improvement in skeletal muscle. now i dont think anyone can afford this.

beer in mind our bodies produse 5mg of IGF-1 daily, so i dont think 30mcg will do anything in term of muscle gains.

I've done quite a bit of research on IGF-1 Recptor grade and finally got some. I won't start it for a couple of weeks along with my cycle, but I have a couple athletes using it at only 20 mcg/day and w/in a few days they started to notice a couple things. First, they were much stronger. And second, they appeared and felt very hard. They said that the pumps weren't outrageous, but they aren't on any AAS right now. I'm curious to see what happens over the next month. I'll keep you guys updated.

 

[BionicBC]

whats up bro. I didnt wanna post this public because of the politics, but there is a very interesting thread on IGF at www.bodybuilding.com on this topic. Im not sure if youre familiar with Patrick Arnold, the inventor of 1-ad and a top trainer of many pro's, but the man does his research and knows what he's talking about. He shows in this thread how the only real studies on IGF were done in mice, and if you use the same ratio of IGF used in mice to make it comparable to a human dose, a human would have to use like 5-10mg per day!!!! (actually even more than that) Not these miniscule 30-60mcg doses that people are using. Basicallly, this thread was an eye opener to me, becaue this guy has no alterior motive, and showed how IGF is basically a myth/scam-theres just tooo many damn people making money, and too little experience/research for the lies to be exposed yet. Money better spent would be on HgH.
Bionic

 

[Makavelli]

whats up bro. I didnt wanna post this public because of the politics, but there is a very interesting thread on IGF at www.bodybuilding.com on this topic. Im not sure if youre familiar with Patrick Arnold, the inventor of 1-ad and a top trainer of many pro's, but the man does his research and knows what he's talking about. He shows in this thread how the only real studies on IGF were done in mice, and if you use the same ratio of IGF used in mice to make it comparable to a human dose, a human would have to use like 5-10mg per day!!!! (actually even more than that) Not these miniscule 30-60mcg doses that people are using. Basicallly, this thread was an eye opener to me, becaue this guy has no alterior motive, and showed how IGF is basically a myth/scam-theres just tooo many damn people making money, and too little experience/research for the lies to be exposed yet. Money better spent would be on HgH.
Bionic

Hey bro, I'm all for studies and research, however I tend to trust empirical data more than anything. And I'm seeing the results. Can't argue with that.

 

[WannaImpress]

Mr. X and Makavelli what brand of IGF are you guys using or used?

 

[Makavelli]

Mr. X and Makavelli what brand of IGF are you guys using or used?

AG. I think X is using the same. Great products!

 

[Mr.X]

I'm using the AG receptor grade IGF, the BEST