Does gear have a better absorbtion rate in different muscles?

[emptywallet]

Does gear have a better absorbtion rate in different muscles? I remember reading on here one time about how glute shots since the muscle was the largest tend to absorb gear better than say a delt shot. What I'm curious about is since Ive been shooting test in my glutes, I'm curious about if the absorbtion would be better or worse in my quads, since I like doing quad shots alot more. Anyone care to comment?

 

[Hustler_dt]

i doubt that there is much solid evidence on this subject. the absorbtion is probably very similar for most muscles but there are probably some variable which could speed up or slow it down in the individual.

some of these variable could be the amount of blood flow that you have in that particular muscle, the amount of scar tissue, amount of blood vessels in the area, etc.....

all in all i wouldnt worry about it. the absorbtion times should be similar enough where it wont really matter.

anyone else have any opinions on the subject?

 

[muscles4ever]

Intersting question. bump

 

[Japanese machine]

Interesting, yes!

I am sure that different muscles allows for a slightly different release of the drug, but not anything noticable! As the more important factor here is the ester that is connected to the steroid! The ester will detrimine how fast the steroid is released into your system!


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[HighIntensity]

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in either glutes or quads would be best

 

[Greek Freak]

I use 1.5"s for everything because I figured the deeper it went the better it would be absorbed, but I had never really read anything stating that. Interesting question.

 

[gainerxxl]

I have read a study (don´t ask me to post it, I have no clue where I found it) that stated a better efficiency of oil based drugs when injected into the glutes compared to other muscles.
I think deca was used in that study and the rates of absorption did make a difference.
I like glute injections, so I didn´t care much about that study when I read it.

 

[gwl9dta4]

That's all a myth. All muscles absorb the same. Saying that some absorb better then others is to say some get better circulation then others which if course is a fallacy, kindoff along the same lines as the old belief the it is hard to get a pump in the calves because they are so far from the heart., LOL.

Now obviousley common sence will tell you that the larger the muscle group the better it will be at accepting large voume injections. Also it will have less densley packed nerves and major blood vessels, thus making the injections safer and easier. Another factor that makes it easier to inject larger muscle groups is their thickness, but that is only safer NOT more effective.

 

[emptywallet]

I imagine the ester plays a role as well. Shorter acting esters maybe. I'm shooting enanthate, so I don't think it make a big difference. Do you?

 

[gwl9dta4]

I imagine the ester plays a role as well. Shorter acting esters maybe. I'm shooting enanthate, so I don't think it make a big difference. Do you?

Nope, no difference, none at all.

 

[emptywallet]

Nope, no difference, none at all.

just to clarify, it wouldnt really matter if I shot enanthate in my quad or my glute. Right?

 

[gwl9dta4]

just to clarify, it wouldnt really matter if I shot enanthate in my quad or my glute. Right?

Yep. Makes no difference. Some sites are safer then other in regards to injections, but they will absorb the same.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

I'll stick to glute injections regardless simply because it's less painful

 

[emptywallet]

"Of all the locations that nandrolone injections were given in this study (100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the glutes, 25 mg/ml x 4 ml in the glutes and 100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the deltoid), the deltoid injections yielded the lowest plasma levels of nandrolone by quite a bit, with peak concentrations being 50% lower than the 100 mg/ml gluteal injection which is approximately 10% lower than the 100 mg/ml x 4ml gluteal injection. (Sorry mike, but more surface area being the reason was not part of the conclusions, it could just have easily been for a myriad of other reasons, blood flow to the area, usage, etc...).

Reference:
The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997. "



I knew I had read this before somewhere. Someone responded to my topic in anabolicfitness.net and listed this. There was an actual study using nandrolone and came out just like I thought it had. Anything to reply with gwl9dta4?

 

[StoneColdGold]

Saying that some absorb better then others is to say some get better circulation then others which if course is a fallacy, kindoff along the same lines as the old belief the it is hard to get a pump in the calves because they are so far from the heart., LOL.

actually everything you just said is true, not a fallacy. take your calf example. the calf only has ONE major artery with which it is supplied with blood. can you think of another muscle besides the calf that burns with the same intensity and duration after a balls-out set? of course not. this is because, due to less circulation, it takes longer to shuttle lactic acid away from the calf and bring in fresh oxygenated blood.

 

[gainerxxl]

Thanks empty Wallet, that is the study I was talking about. There´s many people here, who pretend to know something for sure, but have no scientific knowledge or background to back up their claims.

 

[emptywallet]

Thanks empty Wallet, that is the study I was talking about. There´s many people here, who pretend to know something for sure, but have no scientific knowledge or background to back up their claims.

Exactly, thats why when the other guy who i was responding back and forth with told me what he thought, i knew I wasnt crazy that I'd heard and read a study about the opposite before. Anyway, your welcome, glute injections are now my main target.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I knew I had read this before somewhere. Someone responded to my topic in anabolicfitness.net and listed this. There was an actual study using nandrolone and came out just like I thought it had. Anything to reply with gwl9dta4?

I read this before too. This same question was up about a year ago or so. Somebody (Huck? Zyg?) responded to this with something along the lines that it only slowed release hence lower peak levels, and also that this study only looked at one shot, not the effects of multiple shots given over a period of weeks as we take them. I may not be recalling the details of the rebuttal perfectly, but I do remember that it was a convincing rebuttal.

 

[gwl9dta4]

"Of all the locations that nandrolone injections were given in this study (100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the glutes, 25 mg/ml x 4 ml in the glutes and 100 mg/ml x 1 ml in the deltoid), the deltoid injections yielded the lowest plasma levels of nandrolone by quite a bit, with peak concentrations being 50% lower than the 100 mg/ml gluteal injection which is approximately 10% lower than the 100 mg/ml x 4ml gluteal injection. (Sorry mike, but more surface area being the reason was not part of the conclusions, it could just have easily been for a myriad of other reasons, blood flow to the area, usage, etc...).

Reference:
The Journal of Pharmacology And Experimental Therapeutics, Vol 281, No. 1; 93-102, 1997. "



I knew I had read this before somewhere. Someone responded to my topic in anabolicfitness.net and listed this. There was an actual study using nandrolone and came out just like I thought it had. Anything to reply with gwl9dta4?

Yes actually. How may test subjects did they use in the study and were they all Men of equal weight? It's fairly obvious that an injection given to a subject will get into the blood stream eventually, some sooner then others. Were the subjects told to excercise the muscle that was injected? If not, even the simple act of walking will speed absorption in the Quad and Glute area, making the sedetary shoulder muscles look like they have a lesser absorption rate.

There are many variables and from what you posted on this study here there are holes in it right from the start.

 

[gwl9dta4]

I will say this again, in medicine, the reason the Glutes, Quads and Deltoid is used for intramuscular injections is strictly because of the safety of injecting those muscles. There is a much lesser chance of hitting a major blood vessel, causing nerve damage or hitting a bone. All Product injected into those muscles WILL get into the bloodsteam.

 

[gwl9dta4]

actually everything you just said is true, not a fallacy. take your calf example. the calf only has ONE major artery with which it is supplied with blood. can you think of another muscle besides the calf that burns with the same intensity and duration after a balls-out set? of course not. this is because, due to less circulation, it takes longer to shuttle lactic acid away from the calf and bring in fresh oxygenated blood.

Actually that has more to do with the type of muscle fiber in the calfes themselves, which allows them to perform for a long duration under moderate stress. I get the SAME exact burn when i train ANY muscle group in the manner i train the calves with.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I will say this again, in medicine, the reason the Glutes, Quads and Deltoid is used for intramuscular injections is strictly because of the safety of injecting those muscles. There is a much lesser chance of hitting a major blood vessel, causing nerve damage or hitting a bone. All Product injected into those muscles WILL get into the bloodsteam.

This is true, however, quads are not typically indicated for adults. Usually glutes and delts from what I have looked at...

 

[NeverGet2Big]

Heard that site injecting into a lagging body part works to increase in size.
Also Some say that smaller muscle groups are better the large because of blood vescles in that area. For EX. If there are 50 blood vescles in a muscle, then the smaller the muscle the closer that the blood vescles are together. So in that case a delt shot would be more effective then a glute.
This is just something I read. My opinion is that it doesn't really make a diff. The only diff. is if you do delt shots, your delts will def apear bigger for about 10-12 weeks. I would say same goes for any bodypart.