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Does drinking winstrol give the same affect as injecting?

jumpmaster82

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I know u can drink winstrol, but that can't be as affective as injecting it. Common sense would tell you that downing 50 mgs of the depot would be the exact same as taking the same dosage of the tablets. Any input on this?
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
I know u can drink winstrol, but that can't be as affective as injecting it. Common sense would tell you that downing 50 mgs of the depot would be the exact same as taking the same dosage of the tablets. Any input on this?



I think the proper word would be "effect". Yes, drinking it yields the same results as injecting. Save that space in the syringe for something else in your stack.
 
injecting saves 1 pass thru the liver -

also suppossedly the extra pass orally makes it better at free'ing bound test because of the increased interaction with s.h.bg in the liver , IM better for anabolism. this from an AR article
 
Here's a study origionally posted by genarr3:


The effect of stanozolol on 15-nitrogen retention in the dog

Can J Vet Res 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8 (ISSN: 0830-9000)

Olson ME; Morck DW; Quinn KB [Find other articles with these Authors] Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta.

The objective of the study was to determine the influence of either oral or intramuscular administration of stanozolol on nitrogen retention in dogs by using a non-invasive 15N-amino acid tracer technique. Ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days (Group 1, n = 5) or an intramuscular injection of 25 mg of stanozolol on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28 (Group 2, n = 5). A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Urine was collected by catheterization from each animal 3 times daily for 3 consecutive days. The 15N-urea enrichment in urine was determined by high-resolution mass spectrometry and the total amount of urea in the urine was determined.

Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant (P < 0.05) increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/- 8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The response to intramuscular administration was significantly greater than the response to the oral dosing regime. Stanozolol increases amino acid nitrogen retention in dogs, as has been previously observed in rats. This action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.

Okay, so the oral dose was 28mg/week and the injected dose was 25mg/week. And the injected dose was far better at increasing nitrogen retention (67.0% versus 50.3%). This makes it about 33.2% better (roughly speaking), so if I extrapolate, it means to see the same effects as 25mg of injected stanozolol per week, you'd need to take about 38mg of it orally.

This isn't quite "twice the injected dose" and is, in fact, closer to 50% (52% or so actually). So if you assume the dog model is correct, or nearly so in other mammals like humans, you'd need about 50% more stanozolol orally than you would if you injected it. So if you used 50mg of injected Winstrol every other day, it would be a safe bet to assume 37.5mg of stanozolol used orally every day would provide a similar effect.
 
Maxx Out said:
Reason why?

shit is like a terrorist to your joints, shuts you down, from my experience it is the most overrated drug out there i think gains of hardness etc are overstated. For the effects why not go with test or npp? Im not one that buys into cutting a bulking drugs in my eyes you can bulk or cut on anything if your diet and cardio are in sync. This is just my experience shit works for some people but for me all it did was make me feel like I was 100 years old whereas with test I feel like 18 still.
 
This is basically irrelevant.

Winstrol should be used with test
Nitrogen retention can be enhanced through increased calories / protein intake

Maxx Out said:
Here's a study origionally posted by genarr3:


The effect of stanozolol on 15-nitrogen retention in the dog

Can J Vet Res 2000 Oct;64(4):246-8 (ISSN: 0830-9000)

Olson ME; Morck DW; Quinn KB [Find other articles with these Authors] Animal Health Unit and Gastrointestinal Sciences, University of Calgary, Alberta.

The objective of the study was to determine the influence of either oral or intramuscular administration of stanozolol on nitrogen retention in dogs by using a non-invasive 15N-amino acid tracer technique. Ten healthy, intact, adult male sled dogs received either stanozolol tablets, 2 mg/dog PO, q12h, for 25 days (Group 1, n = 5) or an intramuscular injection of 25 mg of stanozolol on Days 7, 14, 21, and 28 (Group 2, n = 5). A 15N amino acid (5.27 mmol) was infused intravenously into each dog on Day 0 (before stanozolol treatment) and on Day 31 (after stanozolol treatment). Urine was collected by catheterization from each animal 3 times daily for 3 consecutive days. The 15N-urea enrichment in urine was determined by high-resolution mass spectrometry and the total amount of urea in the urine was determined.

Both oral and injectable stanozolol resulted in significant (P < 0.05) increases in amino acid nitrogen retention compared to pretreatment values. Oral stanozolol increased nitrogen retention from 29.2 +/- 8.2% to 50.3 +/- 9.2%, while stanozolol injection increased nitrogen retention from 26.6 +/- 9.9% to 67.0 +/- 7.5%. The response to intramuscular administration was significantly greater than the response to the oral dosing regime. Stanozolol increases amino acid nitrogen retention in dogs, as has been previously observed in rats. This action of stanozolol may be beneficial in dogs under stress of surgical trauma and chronic disease.

Okay, so the oral dose was 28mg/week and the injected dose was 25mg/week. And the injected dose was far better at increasing nitrogen retention (67.0% versus 50.3%). This makes it about 33.2% better (roughly speaking), so if I extrapolate, it means to see the same effects as 25mg of injected stanozolol per week, you'd need to take about 38mg of it orally.

This isn't quite "twice the injected dose" and is, in fact, closer to 50% (52% or so actually). So if you assume the dog model is correct, or nearly so in other mammals like humans, you'd need about 50% more stanozolol orally than you would if you injected it. So if you used 50mg of injected Winstrol every other day, it would be a safe bet to assume 37.5mg of stanozolol used orally every day would provide a similar effect.
 
rfowler said:
shit is like a terrorist to your joints, shuts you down, from my experience it is the most overrated drug out there i think gains of hardness etc are overstated. For the effects why not go with test or NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - ? Im not one that buys into cutting a bulking drugs in my eyes you can bulk or cut on anything if your diet and cardio are in sync. This is just my experience shit works for some people but for me all it did was make me feel like I was 100 years old whereas with test I feel like 18 still.

Yes, to each his own, but as long as people take the right precautions they should be fine.
 
we shuld just tell people that you cant drink it anymore
that they are brewing it with everclear again and one sip will leave you drunker than an indian.
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
I know u can drink winstrol, but that can't be as affective as injecting it. Common sense would tell you that downing 50 mgs of the depot would be the exact same as taking the same dosage of the tablets. Any input on this?

I would say ANY aas is better with test...period..just my 2 cents.
Yo gjohnson, wat up w/ hating the Steelers? Everyone's talking Indy & New England...watch out for them Steelers in the end!
 
Jumpmaster82 said:
I know u can drink winstrol, but that can't be as affective as injecting it. Common sense would tell you that downing 50 mgs of the depot would be the exact same as taking the same dosage of the tablets. Any input on this?


compare the cost for one Zambon Winstrol ampule 50mg to one 50mg tablet of Winstrol,,,that would be one expensive drink. just buy the tabs if you cant handle injects.
 
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