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Does bromo really need to be split up during the day??

mvmaxx

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I know the typical dose of Bromo is 1.25mg/2xED. That's half a tab two times a day. Well I noticed johnboy ran it 5mg only once a day at night. Is there any reason to split it up or can you just take it at night. What is the halflife?
 
By what functioning in the body does Bromo help with dieting? Is it strictly an appetite suppresant like nicotine?
 
I believe the half life is 60 hours.

I wouldn't take 5mg at once. Definitely work your way up to that dose. I'm taking it now. (2nd day), and 1.25mg is kicking my ass.
 
barnidge said:
By what functioning in the body does Bromo help with dieting? Is it strictly an appetite suppresant like nicotine?

I've seen a few posts on here claiming that is has fat burning properties, so I'm curious if mvmaxx is using it for this reason!
 
barnidge said:
Have you noticed any positve benefits yet?

Not sure if that question was for me or not but........

2nd day for me at 1.25mg before bedtime, and my sex drive has gone up, and I've been having wicked dreams. (sexual dreams and really violent dreams)
 
WannaImpress said:


I've seen a few posts on here claiming that is has fat burning properties, so I'm curious if mvmaxx is using it for this reason!

After reading johnboy's thread about it not really kicking in for 2-3 weeks I've decided to start it now before I start my prop/tren/winny cycle. I know I'm gyno prone and want to do everything in my power to stop from getting fina gyno.

So I will be starting Bromo 2 weeks before and I think I'll taper my way up from 1.25 to 2.5-5mg. I may keep it at 2.5mg until I feel the need to bump it to 5mg. We will see how I react to the sides. I also plan on starting Aromasin @ 25mg/ED 2 weeks prior as well.
 
Here's a post by Fonz regarding fat loss and bromo:


Bromocriptine works through dopaminergic pathways.

There are two ways to raget fa-loss via the ADRENERGIC
system.

1. The CNS is composed of the PNS and SNS.

PNS=Para-sympathetic nervous system
SNS=Sympathetic Nervous system

The SNS is governed by Adrenaline and Nor-adrenaline
The PNS is governed by DOPAMINE.

By increasing either Dopaime, adrenaline or nor-adrenaline,
you get an INCREASE in FFA breakdown.

Ephedrine, Clen etc.. stimulate the SNS.
Bromocriptine, DMAE, stimulate the PNS.

Having said all this, the use of PNS and SNS agonists
concurrently MAY overload the CNS of some people.
Result: Headches, migraines, twitching etc...

Either run one or the other.

What I do is switch back and forth between the 2.
W1-8: NYC+yohimburn W9-17: Bromocriptine

This way each adrenergic pathway is allowed to recover.

Fonz
 
Bromocriptine
Bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist the has been shown to decrease body fat stores in experimental animals with little or no reduction in body weight or food intake.145 Accordingly, Meier and colleagues treated 33 obese postmenopausal women and 15 men with poorly-controlled Type II diabetes mellitus with bromocriptine. The subjects received 1.25 mg or 2.5 mg daily for 10 weeks with no other interventions. Body fat, as estimated by skinfold measurement, was reduced by 11.7% in the non-diabetic subjects. In the diabetic subjects, body fat was also reduced but to a greater extent in those subjects taking antidiabetic pills for control of their diabetes. Hyperglycemia resolved in most of the diabetics allowing cessation of hypoglycemic drugs in some. The degree of weight loss was minimal in all patients and mild nausea was the only side effect reported. 146 Encouraged by these results, the same investigators randomized 17 obese subjects to bromocriptine (1.6 or 2.4 mg daily within 2 hours of awakening of a quick-release form of bromocriptine) or placebo. In addition, all subjects were instructed to follow a moderately-low calorie diet. After 18 weeks, the subjects receiving bromocriptine had lost 6.3 kg and those receiving placebo only lost about 1 kg. Treatment with bromocriptine was also associated with a greater reduction in body fat and improved glucose tolerance.147 The way in which bromocriptine decreases fat stores and body weight and improves glucose tolerance is not known, but appetite suppression or a reduction of lipogenesis (the production of fat) have been proposed 146,147 Although these data are promising, the use of bromocriptine cannot be recommended until more information about long-term safety and efficacy is available. Bromocriptine is not currently FDA- approved for the treatment of obesity, but phase III studies are under way.


Also, here's a link:

http://www.ispub.com/journals/IJAPA/Vol1N2/obesity2.html
 
Yeah take it now so it will be active by the time your running your fina, I say break the doses up MV Ive heard some people having some fucked up reactions at 5mg doses.
 
PopiChulo said:
Yeah take it now so it will be active by the time your running your fina, I say break the doses up MV Ive heard some people having some fucked up reactions at 5mg doses.

I will be starting at 1.25mg/ED for a week and will then go to 2.5mg/ED. I'll take 2.5mg at night before bed. If the sides get too bad I'll split them up. But I'm hoping I get past the first week a little easier since I'm doing a low dose.

BTW, you owe me an e-mail. ;)
 
mvmaxx said:


How so? Please explain yourself.

Circadiam Rythms (yes, I misspelled that word), dopamine being very low in the day time yet higher at night. There are a plenty of studies that show this.

Someone else can explain it better than I can. Im too lazy to go into detail at the moment.
 
MrQuestion said:


Circadiam Rythms (yes, I misspelled that word), dopamine being very low in the day time yet higher at night. There are a plenty of studies that show this.

Someone else can explain it better than I can. Im too lazy to go into detail at the moment.


BUMP for a better explanation from macro. ;) no offense bro
 
Dividing up the dose makes it more tolerable for certain. 2.5mg is too damn much. before bed though it is fine if ya ask me. Just go with twice daily. Once upon waking and once before bed. What's the problem?
 
MrQuestion said:


Circadiam Rythms (yes, I misspelled that word), dopamine being very low in the day time yet higher at night. There are a plenty of studies that show this.

Someone else can explain it better than I can. Im too lazy to go into detail at the moment.

Actually, splitting the dose works best.

1. You get a dopamine increase during the day and:

2.YOU GET THE ADDED BENEFITS OF INCREASED GH SECRETION
BECAUSE OF PROLACTIN INHIBITION during the day AND night.

If you only took it in the AM, your night-time GH releaase
would be lower than if you took the Bromo in the AM and PM.

Best dose, that people TOLERATE is 1.25mgs in the AM and PM
(For a total of 2.5mg).

2.5mgs in the AM and PM is also doable(For a total of 5mg), but it will take some time to ramp up to this level.

Fonz
 
Bromo's half life is 10hrs. It reaches peak concentration in your blood within 2-3 hrs after taking it. No studies show that breaking up the dosage alter results with fat loss. Do not take it at night unless you want your sides to be worse. Take in the AM with food. Do not take with ephedrine or clen unless you want to waste your bromo as these compounds block bromo's effects.

read lyle mcdonald's book at qfac.com it explains everything you ever wanted to know about bromo for dieting, post roid cycle, to loose fat and gain muscle.
 
what would happen if you mixed 200mg of wellbutrin sr daily with some bromo?..I cna't find any contraindications within the rather lengthy prescribing info insert..as you may know wellbutrin/bupropion is an inhibitor of the neuronal uptake of norepinephrine and dopamine..and therefore its mechanisms of action are mediated by noradrenergic and/or dopaminergic mechanisms..would stacking bromo with wellbutrin be a possible scenario for overload?...I've just started wellbutrin a week ago and I love it..my lifts are more intense(w/o any thermogenics etc)and my appetite is much more manageable
 
I took my first 2.5mg last night and I had no appetite..and usually I have a voracious appetite at night after a work-out..with this stuff I quit eating a bowl of bran cereal mid-way thru as I just wasn't hungry
 
SuperWoman said:
Bromo's half life is 10hrs. It reaches peak concentration in your blood within 2-3 hrs after taking it. No studies show that breaking up the dosage alter results with fat loss. Do not take it at night unless you want your sides to be worse. Take in the AM with food. Do not take with ephedrine or clen unless you want to waste your bromo as these compounds block bromo's effects.

read lyle mcdonald's book at qfac.com it explains everything you ever wanted to know about bromo for dieting, post roid cycle, to loose fat and gain muscle.


so is it safe to say that if someone is pre-contest dieting, and using fina then forget about using bromo-----I don't know anyone that does not use ephedrine and/or clen in their pre-contest assault?
 
Wombat said:



so is it safe to say that if someone is pre-contest dieting, and using fina then forget about using bromo-----I don't know anyone that does not use ephedrine and/or clen in their pre-contest assault?

I'm currently on:

1. DMAE(Dopamine enhancer. Weak)
2. NYC(Nor-Ephedrine)
3. Yohimburn

Then I switch to:

1. Bromocriptine(Dopamine agonist)
2. Octopamine(Nor-Synephrine)

Works like a charm.

Octopamine btw, is by my research a true Beta-3.

Fonz
 
mvmaxx said:
Fonz, can you explain the reasoning behind taking Octopmaine with the bromo. Can you also suggest a dosage regimen.

BTW, I found a link for it if anyone is interested.

http://www.affordablesupplements.com/beta3.asp

Octopamine does not cause an adrenaline like other beta agonists.

Its the adrenaline surge that cancels out the dopamine
surge caused by the Bromocriptine.

Octopamine only stimulates BAT(Brown Adipose Tissue),
causing a rise in your temp. due to muscular shivering).

Fonz
 
No

I take 5mg right before bed each day. THe sides only last about 3-4 days then they are gone. At least for me.
 
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