GymIntensity said:Ive had one run with clen for about 2 weeks, mild doses up to about 100mcg at max. My experience is that it didn't do anything more than regular thermos such as Trex or Cardio Breeze, if even that great of results. It made me really tired all the time. I work 12 hour nites, and I noticed if I took it in the afternoon before work I would get tired and sleepy as hell before I got off work at 7AM. made me feel overall shitty and weak. And after a little hype about Cardiac Tissue being destroyed, I'm sold that its not worth it IMO, and you can have the results you want through diet and cardio. Just gotta keep going even when you feel like your gains have stopped and you plateaud.
boston789 said:I've heard that numerous times....thats what I was trying to get at. Now that I see it written.
Mavafanculo said:1 or 2 12 day runs in between ECA or Hydroxycut Hardcore or Thermorexin type weightloss aids works wonders.
but yeah, makes me weak, strength goes way down on lifts blah.
redsamurai said:wait a minute, I've read it's actually anabolic and that lifts stay the same if not increase slightly? Are the bad results people get with clen the result of poor diet? I can see how taking a powerful stimulant along with poor eating can do alot of damage. I'm not planning on altering my diet much with clen......I'm always on a lean gainer diet anyway, but I'm still taking in the calories.
rzhed said:im just starting 200 mcg...6 weeks 3 days on 3 days off supposively you can run it forever at this dose at that many days on and off...guess ill find out
redsamurai said:wait a minute, I've read it's actually anabolic and that lifts stay the same if not increase slightly? Are the bad results people get with clen the result of poor diet? I can see how taking a powerful stimulant along with poor eating can do alot of damage. I'm not planning on altering my diet much with clen......I'm always on a lean gainer diet anyway, but I'm still taking in the calories.
you may want to read the studies on clens effects on the heart.......thats why I no longer use it. I agree with GI 200 mcg is just plain crazy. I knew someone that took that dose on accident once (failed to read the dosing on a new bottle) he has not touched clen since.......thought he was going to die, almost called 911. Good luckrzhed said:im just starting 200 mcg...6 weeks 3 days on 3 days off supposively you can run it forever at this dose at that many days on and off...guess ill find out
bilter said:you may want to read the studies on clens effects on the heart.......thats why I no longer use it. I agree with GI 200 mcg is just plain crazy. I knew someone that took that dose on accident once (failed to read the dosing on a new bottle) he has not touched clen since.......thought he was going to die, almost called 911. Good luck
redsamurai said:also, what's the consensus on the best things to take with clen.....ancillaries??
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