Does anyone see a problem using cabergoline right through PCT?

[Mavy]

Do peole include this into PCT? I was thinking that I would want to run it right through due to its mojo enhancing effects, and overall well being. Is there any reason NOT to include this into PCT? PCT will consist of HCG and Nolva. There are no conflicts between these drugs that I can see? Just want to here what you may have to say incase this is a bad idea.

Cheers,
Mavy

 

[The Terminator]

I hope not lol ,
I have been using it this entire time I have been off (plus about 6-7 weeks while on)

 

[DIVISION]

Term!!!!!!!!!

I hope not lol ,
I have been using it this entire time I have been off (plus about 6-7 weeks while on)

Term, this is during the time you've had your hernia, right?

I hope you know what you're doing.

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Term!!!!!!!!!

Term, this is during the time you've had your hernia, right?

I hope you know what you're doing.

Yep. Its an antiprolactin though, so I dont see any potential conflicit there.
Though the high sex drive has been somewhat problematic (since I cant have sex right now )...Its been more fo a nuisance than anything else lately...

The hernia is still there, and I have not even been able to train for the past few weeks


On a good note, my aggressive PCT regimen seems to be working VERY well after this last cycle this time...I have as much drive as I did while in the middle of that cycle

 

[DIVISION]

Term!!!!

The hernia is still there, and I have not even been able to train for the past few weeks


On a good note, my aggressive PCT regimen seems to be working VERY well after this last cycle this time...I have as much drive as I did while in the middle of that cycle

I sure hope you're keeping LBM during the PCT phase.

You're getting hit w/ a double whammy here........when is your hernia surgery scheduled?

What's up?

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Term!!!!

I sure hope you're keeping LBM during the PCT phase.

You're getting hit w/ a double whammy here........when is your hernia surgery scheduled?

What's up?

Sadly I am losing muscle at a fairly quick rate as of late (not too surprising considering I am not able to weight train right now ). Couple that with my extremely racy metabolism and you have a cocktail for catabolism

Plus since I have no protein breakdown (via resistance training) my overall protein intake has suffered (I dont need 250-300 grams per day if I am not breaking down muscle to be repaired in the first place )

The hernia is very mild and was NOT the big problem that sent me to the ER (dont ask what it turned out to be, you dont want to know )

 

[DIVISION]

Term!!!!!!!!

Sadly I am losing muscle at a fairly quick rate as of late (not too surprising considering I am not able to weight train right now ). Couple that with my extremely racy metabolism and you have a cocktail for catabolism

Plus since I have no protein breakdown (via resistance training) my overall protein intake has suffered (I dont need 250-300 grams per day if I am not breaking down muscle to be repaired in the first place )

The hernia is very mild and was NOT the big problem that sent me to the ER (dont ask what it turned out to be, you dont want to know )

Shoot me a PM and we'll talk.

It sounds pretty bad, IMO.

perhaps I can help you.

DIV

 

[The Terminator]

Re: Term!!!!!!!!

Shoot me a PM and we'll talk.

It sounds pretty bad, IMO.

perhaps I can help you.

DIV

Its already being addressed....I just have to be patient and wait out the course of treament

 

[DrJMW]

I don't recommend it through PCT because it is an expensive med. If you used it throughout your nandrolone-oriented cycle, you do not need it post-cycle.

 

[Jenetic]

I don't recommend it through PCT because it is an expensive med. If you used it throughout your nandrolone-oriented cycle, you do not need it post-cycle.

Not only is it an expensive med, but there is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns since normal levels of prolactin play a role in the endogenous production of testosterone. Once again, it's about balance.

The following is a study on the anti prolactin bromocriptine:

Effects of chronic bromocriptine-induced hypoprolactinemia on plasma testosterone responses to human chorionic gonadotropin stimulation in normal men.

Oseko F, Nakano A, Morikawa K, Endo J, Taniguchi A, Usui T.

Department of Medicine, Shimane Medical University, Japan.

To study the role played by normal levels of plasma prolactin (PRL) in the secretion of testosterone (T) in the testes, we induced hypoprolactinemia with a daily dose of 5 mg bromocriptine administered orally in five normal men 20 to 35 years of age for 8 weeks. The basal PRL, T, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and maximum responses of plasma T to human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) stimulation were measured every 2 weeks. Basal levels of plasma T were reduced in the 1st 2-week-long period of hypoprolactinemia. In the 4-week-long period of hypoprolactinemia, the maximal response of plasma T to hCG stimulation was significantly reduced. The findings suggest that normal levels of plasma PRL may play an important role in the secretion of T in the human testes in vivo.

Jenetic

 

[DIVISION]

Double Edged Sword...

Not only is it an expensive med, but there is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns since normal levels of prolactin play a role in the endogenous production of testosterone. Once again, it's about balance.

Yes, but guys are of the mindset that once they find out that estrogen causes sides like gynomastia and bloat, they tend to have that one track mind: eliminate ALL estrogen!

Same thing with Prolactin.

 

[Mavy]

Thanks guys great response.

drjmw: I will have a lot of this stuff (much more than I need), its not actually a money issue here for me this time. Just wondering if there are any conflicts or problems taking it with the Nolva and HCG. Or wondering if there are any problems running it when the nanrolones stop, and they are not combating any prolactin sides anymore. Basically, just as I mentioned, for the duration of PCT until my HPTA furnace is fired back on for the libido support and well being effects. Is there anyway that this interferes with HCG?

Jenetic, thanks for the info as well. I dont know how much the law of diminishing returns is going to be an issue for me, by cycle is only 6 weeks, and I am not starting the cabergoline until Monday, which will be 2 weeks in, so I will only be running it for 4 weeks. If I run it though PCT though, it will probably end up being about 7-8 wks on it. Only 4 of which it is combating prolactin sides.

Cheers,
Mavy

 

[junk]

I run it through the first 2-3 weeks of the PCT (My PCT is 6-7 weeks). That is, I run it 2-3 weeks after last inj. of the Tren. And it's not expensive at all if you know where to get it...

 

[DrJMW]

There is no contraindication to running dostinex with nolva or hcg. Once your proalctin levels hit rock bottom, then continuing dostinex post nandrolone cycle is not wise. As Jenetic said in a previous post, you do need some prolactin..same as you need some estrogen for normal function.