Does anyone get fina cough with fina made from powder, not pellets?

[Lift Chief]

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I know people get it when they convert from the pellets... but what about when made with pure tren powder... it should be just like finaject, which never made people cough- right?

 

[Lift Chief]

-chief bump-

 

[Stillgoing]

I've never had it bro....good question though, does anyone know what causes it??

 

[Spidey]

I made pure tren powder by extracting the pellets and then chromatographing it to give pure tren acetate powder. I made my stuff from that and I have only had the cough once from the tren. I did get the cough from my test prop once too though.

I think the cough is caused by nicking or passing through a vein. A little of the oil mixture gets in the vein and goes right to the lungs, which causes the violent coughing. I think it is possible to get it from anything, not just fina. Like I said, I got it from my test prop once and it was every bit as bad as the one time I got it from my fina.

 

[NorCalBdyBldr]

I have only used the pellets and don't have a source for the powder so have never used it.

I am fairly convinced "by the feel of it" that the cough has something to do with either the benzyl benzoate or benzyl alcohol used as cosolvents to dissolve it into the oil. The resulting concentration of BA is quite high compared to what is used in the pharmaceutical industry. Some of the listed side effects for high doses on the MSDS sheets (materials safety data sheets) for both BA and BB look suspicious but they are only for very high doses. Of course, direct injection is NOT one of the pathways of exposure discussed. Mostly they discuss inhalation, injestion, getting it into your eyes, etc. BB is used as a carrier solvent for food colorings and fragrences and flavorings and is considered safe at low to moderate doses. BA is normally only used in a concentration of 0.95% by volume in parenteral (injectible) medications as a preservative (prevents secondary growth of bacteria at this concentration once the solution has been sterilized first).

Of course, considering that every cell in your body directly borders on a capillary, even if you don't shoot directly into a vein, the material will very rapidly get into your blood stream and go straight to your lungs very quickly anyway. Just not as fast or as dangerous as shooting directly into a vein or nicking it.

There was a rather disturbing post on another board regarding "tren lung" and quite a few people seem to have developed problems from using home made tren including one that ended up in an ICU and got pneumonia.

The only things that I am aware of that are in the pellets are methyl cellulose (basically cardboard to make the pellets and to absorb the tren), FD&C yellow dye and trenbolone acetate. One of the posters on the other board claimed they had high levels of cadmium in their body and was convinced it came from the tren. I have no idea why a heavy metal like cadmium would be present in something like fina which is used to make a food product (beef) or where they could have gotten that exposure from. It is not that common. So this is the best information that I have to date so far in the ongoing controversy over the fina cough as I get it too but LOVE using fina because of the results I get from it.

 

[NorCalBdyBldr]

 Spidey

I think the cough is caused by nicking or passing through a vein. A little of the oil mixture gets in the vein and goes right to the lungs, which causes the violent coughing. I think it is possible to get it from anything, not just fina. Like I said, I got it from my test prop once and it was every bit as bad as the one time I got it from my fina.

Interesting information Spidey. Did you use BA or BB as part of your "magic solution?"

To be honest though, I have never gotten the cough from any other injectible. Injectibles that I have used are t-cyp, t-enanthate, sus, deca durabolin and its generic nandrolone decanoate, winny, HCG, and serostim (gh). I have also been on HRT for over seven years with weekly injections of test. My only experience with the cough came from home brewed tren. made from Component TH. Of course, with the exception of the sus and winny, all of the others were U.S. made pharmaceuticals (not black market).

 

[Sigmund Roid]

I only used powder, and I got the cough regularly. However, this was only when I injected into scar tissue. Nowadays I inject in my quads, and I almost never have the cough, just once in a while some mucous formation that crawls up my throat and a mild choking feeling. I suspect that injecting into the hard scar tissue causes a lot of stress on the outside of the liquid bolus, which may open blood vessels, so that significant amounts of fina get into the blood stream rather quickly.

 

[NorCalBdyBldr]

I only used powder, and I got the cough regularly. However, this was only when I injected into scar tissue. Nowadays I inject in my quads, and I almost never have the cough, just once in a while some mucous formation that crawls up my throat and a mild choking feeling. I suspect that injecting into the hard scar tissue causes a lot of stress on the outside of the liquid bolus, which may open blood vessels, so that significant amounts of fina get into the blood stream rather quickly.

I agree that the rate at which it enters your system definitely is related to just how bad of if you get the cough. I hadn't thought of injecting into scar tissue being a problem for rapid diffusion though. This may be one of my problems with it as I always inject into the glutes. The only other place I have ever tried is the outer middle quads and every time I did it, it left me limping for days and left a large red area of irritation on my skin--don't know why. So after several times, I haven't had the nerve to shoot there again but might try it next time with fina and see if it helps. Obviously the more time it has in your system before it gets to the lungs, the more time it has to dilute down. I still feel it has something to do with the cosolvents, BA and BB, though. But as the old saying goes "the solution to pollution is dilution." So that sort of applies here as well.

This is why on one of my posts, I asked about spot injection into the rear deltoid. The reasoning behind this is that I had read some posts somewhere where someone claimed that the rear delt was the "furthest" location from the lungs. This was all in reference to lutalyse or pgf2a. So had been wondering if anyone had ever done this with anything and how was it?

I have to admit that when I get the cough, I bring up tremendous amounts of clearish fluid from the lungs--litterally by the mouthful. It is pretty gross.

 

[Stillgoing]

I have to admit that when I get the cough, I bring up tremendous amounts of clearish fluid from the lungs--litterally by the mouthful. It is pretty gross.

Whoa. Pretty wild.

 

[Lift Chief]

What scares me is that we don't understand why we get the cough.