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Does anyone dip here?

PWTurbofan

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Not the gym dips like the other post, but like Skoal dip...I thought I would quit when I moved to NYC cuz I didn't think they'd sell it here, but I was wrong...One of the convenient marts right around the corner has every flavor.

But I think it's time to probably quit. I don't drink, so this has been my big vice. The fun of getting chicks to do it and then watching them puke afterwards like I did in college has worn off. And I think it comes across as being redneck, go figure. And then there's the "mouth cancer" stuff which would definitely be a pisser.

So have any of y'all done it and quit? Cold turkey?
 
i would, but it hurts my shoulder.
 
Shit is so nasty. I saw it a lot when needto was in the military..God how people can do that is besides me!
My brother does and it is so gross. To see him walking around with a spitty cup or whatever. God it makes me want to punch him in his chops.
 
Angel said:
Shit is so nasty. I saw it a lot when needto was in the military..God how people can do that is besides me!
My brother does and it is so gross. To see him walking around with a spitty cup or whatever. God it makes me want to punch him in his chops.
hahahhahaha
silly smokers
 
Angel said:
Shit is so nasty. I saw it a lot when needto was in the military..God how people can do that is besides me!
My brother does and it is so gross. To see him walking around with a spitty cup or whatever. God it makes me want to punch him in his chops.

Ah, the "spitty cup"...aka "dipper". good times, good times....except when it spills.
 
it's considerably safer than smoking
the medical profession is finally admitting it
I like nicotine too much and it's a nuero-protective
much lower rates of alzheimer's and parkinson's in lifetime nicotine users
 
The I time spent as a infantryman in the marines I would dip copenhegan like a fiend. I havent touched the stuff since my discharge.
 
i dipped copenhagen forever but now its so damn expensive here, up to $5 a can (NC). i switched to some off brand shit, either Grizzly or Red Seal. They are both about $2 a can and taste halfway decent. I am trying to quit however, since my uncle was recently diagnosed with throat cancer after using smokeless tobacco for 20 years. He has had a hard time with chemo and radiation... so that is some good motivation to stop.
 
yeah. . .started in high school. . .used to chew a can a day. . .cut back to weekends only (i.e., when i'm hunting, fishing, cutting wood, drinking beer, etc.) quit a few years ago. . .don't know why the hell i don't just quit completely. . .
 
digimon7068 said:
yeah. . .started in high school. . .used to chew a can a day. . .cut back to weekends only (i.e., when i'm hunting, fishing, cutting wood, drinking beer, etc.) quit a few years ago. . .don't know why the hell i don't just quit completely. . .

according to 4ever, it's good for us anyhoo....no alzheimer's!! perhaps I will need to revise my quitting strategy.
 
Tampa, FL (March 15, 2004) – While the health risks of tobacco are well known, several studies have shown that people with a history of cigarette smoking have lower rates of neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease. However, the explanations for nicotine's neuroprotective effects continue to be debated.

Now a team of neuroscientists at the University of South Florida College of Medicine presents new evidence of an anti-inflammatory mechanism in the brain by which nicotine may protect against nerve cell death. Their study was published today in the Journal of Neurochemistry.

In laboratory experiments, the researchers demonstrated that nicotine inhibits activation of brain immune cells known as microglia. Chronic microglial activation is a sign of brain inflammation that is a key step in nerve cell death. The researchers also identified the specific site, the alpha-7 acetylcholine receptor subtype, to which nicotine binds to block microglial activation.

"We propose that nicotine's ability to prevent overactivation of microglia may be additional mechanism underlying nicotine's neuroprotective properties in the brain," said USF neuroscientist R. Douglas Shytle, PhD, lead author of the study.

"This finding lets us explore a new way of looking at neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer's," said Jun Tan, PhD, MD, principal investigator for the study. "A better understanding of the therapeutic aspects of nicotine may also help us develop drugs that mimic the beneficial action of nicotine without its unwanted side effects."

Nicotine mimics the neurotransmitter acetylcholine, a chemical messenger that is critical to communication between brain cells. Acetylcholine is the major neurotransmitter lost in Alzheimer's disease.

The prevailing hypothesis among researchers is that nicotine helps protect the brain by binding to nicotinic acetylcholine receptors that sit on the end of nerve terminals. This action by nicotine, similar to turning up the volume of a radio signal, causes brain cells to increase the release of neurotransmitters depleted in diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

The USF study suggests that nicotine may also protect the brain through another, more indirect route -- by quelling the hyperactivity of immune cells (microglia) that have turned against the brain.

In the normal, healthy brain microglia support and maintain neurons. They also help wipe up excess beta amyloid protein that accumulates in the brain with aging.

"Microglia can be your best friend or your worst enemy depending on the signals they receive," Dr. Shytle said. "The analogy is that you keep talking to them they will take care of you, but if you stop talking they are more likely to get aggressive and have a toxic effect on the brain."

The USF researchers hypothesize that acetylcholine acts as an endogenous anti-inflammatory substance to help prevent microglia from attacking the brain. This neurotransmitter may consistently signal brain's immune system that everything is OK -- no need to activate more microglia, Dr. Shytle said. But, he said, if the neurons that communicate using acetylcholine begin to die and the acetylcholine signal fades, the microglia may become hyperactive and give rise to chronic inflammation that further aggravates the destruction of brain cells.

"In those at risk for Alzheimer's and other neurodegenerative diseases, nicotine may act much like the neurotransmitter acetylcholine. It may send signals to help suppress microglial immune response and limit excessive brain inflammation," Dr. Tan added.


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PWTurbofan said:
Not the gym dips like the other post, but like Skoal dip...I thought I would quit when I moved to NYC cuz I didn't think they'd sell it here, but I was wrong...One of the convenient marts right around the corner has every flavor.

But I think it's time to probably quit. I don't drink, so this has been my big vice. The fun of getting chicks to do it and then watching them puke afterwards like I did in college has worn off. And I think it comes across as being redneck, go figure. And then there's the "mouth cancer" stuff which would definitely be a pisser.

So have any of y'all done it and quit? Cold turkey?


I quit chewing a can a day habit after 17 years of chewing cold turkey over 2 years ago. Cold turkey is the best way. Research the topic and you will learn why the nicotine gum and cutting back and anything that reintroduces nicotine back into your system often proves to have a very low success rate of people quitting. Luckily I managed to keep all my teeth they are still white and that habit is kicked. It took a lot of will power though dont get me wrong and Zyban/Welbutrin type meds do in fact help or at least they did me!
 
CO B-man said:
I quit chewing a can a day habit after 17 years of chewing cold turkey over 2 years ago. Cold turkey is the best way. Research the topic and you will learn why the nicotine gum and cutting back and anything that reintroduces nicotine back into your system often proves to have a very low success rate of people quitting. Luckily I managed to keep all my teeth they are still white and that habit is kicked. It took a lot of will power though dont get me wrong and Zyban/Welbutrin type meds do in fact help or at least they did me!

agreed. . .physical addiction to nicotine only lasts 48 hours. . .
 
digimon7068 said:
agreed. . .physical addiction to nicotine only lasts 48 hours. . .


I disagree with that. The worse part of the withdrawals is the first three days. Thats how long it takes to get nicotine out of your system. After that I had withdrawals for many months. Its a horrible, horrible drug to quit.
 
CO B-man said:
I disagree with that. The worse part of the withdrawals is the first three days. Thats how long it takes to get nicotine out of your system. After that I had withdrawals for many months. Its a horrible, horrible drug to quit.

huh. . .i've dropped for weeks at a time several times over the years when i had to have physicals for life insurance, disability insurance, etc. . .after a couple of days, i don't really crave it anymore. . .why do i go back? i like it. :whatever:

the "48 hours" came from a doctor friend of mine. . .
 
I started while playing baseball in highschool.
A can would last me 1-2 weeks.
In the recent past I got to dipping 1-2 cans per week.

Now go a week without any, but seem to always break down and dip when I am doing things such as road trips, outdoor activities, or work around the house.

The only reason I'd want to quit is due to health risks, but even at that I've known people who are old who have dipped their entire live with no side effects.
 
alien amp pharm said:
I started while playing baseball in highschool.
A can would last me 1-2 weeks.
In the recent past I got to dipping 1-2 cans per week.

Now go a week without any, but seem to always break down and dip when I am doing things such as road trips, outdoor activities, or work around the house.

The only reason I'd want to quit is due to health risks, but even at that I've known people who are old who have dipped their entire live with no side effects.


ROAD TRIPS, hell yea! whenever i quit and then take a damn road trip, i always break down and buy a tin...helps the time pass for sure.
 
alien amp pharm said:
I started while playing baseball in highschool.
A can would last me 1-2 weeks.
In the recent past I got to dipping 1-2 cans per week.

Now go a week without any, but seem to always break down and dip when I am doing things such as road trips, outdoor activities, or work around the house.

The only reason I'd want to quit is due to health risks, but even at that I've known people who are old who have dipped their entire live with no side effects.

exactly. . .just seems to go hand-in-hand with that kind of stuff. . .
 
i cannot do outdoor labor without fine cut
cutting wood, hanging drywall, raking leaves, etc
 
PWTurbofan said:
Good stuff 4ever...BUT...is dipping the best way to get the nic-fix? I know several old guys (70+) who've dipped all their lives and have no problems. But then you hear the stories of people losing their jaws, tongues, etc.

It may just be me, but every other person I know dips around here and I have not heard or known of one person who died, got mouth cancer, or had to have something cut out.

Could it be a scare tactic? I did know one guy who got a white spot in his gums. Doctor gave him pills to take and it cleared up.
 
I was 2 cans/ day of Cope for a while, and a little over a year ago I quit cold turkey. I put one in, it made me feel sick, I didn't touch it again. I don't miss it at all.
 
jnevin said:
I was 2 cans/ day of Cope for a while, and a little over a year ago I quit cold turkey. I put one in, it made me feel sick, I didn't touch it again. I don't miss it at all.
2 cans a day? damn maing that would make me feel like complete shit
in my prime i was two cans a week and i thought that was excessive
a dude i used to work for dipped 3 cans of kody a day
3 fucking cans everday
expensive
he would be putting a new dip in every 15 min all day
 
Gambino said:
2 cans a day? damn maing that would make me feel like complete shit
in my prime i was two cans a week and i thought that was excessive
a dude i used to work for dipped 3 cans of kody a day
3 fucking cans everday
expensive
he would be putting a new dip in every 15 min all day


I'd put 1/4 of the can in at once. I would get rid of it before it was done a bit of the time, but yeah, 2 cans. My BP was teh poop.
 
jnevin said:
I'd put 1/4 of the can in at once. I would get rid of it before it was done a bit of the time, but yeah, 2 cans. My BP was teh poop.


my god. i put that much in once during college and ended up yacking. still, i went back for more :xeye: i'm at a healthy 1.5 tins/week now.
 
PWTurbofan said:
Good stuff 4ever...BUT...is dipping the best way to get the nic-fix? I know several old guys (70+) who've dipped all their lives and have no problems. But then you hear the stories of people losing their jaws, tongues, etc.
I think most of those horror stories involve youngsters starting at age 10 or so
I've been a mortician for 13 years down here in the tobacco belt and I have yet to come across a mouth cancer case
 
thats the most disgusting thing to ever put in your mouth.. and i hate it when you see it in the trash or a freegin cup or can laying around with that shit in it.
 
4everhung said:
I think most of those horror stories involve youngsters starting at age 10 or so
I've been a mortician for 13 years down here in the tobacco belt and I have yet to come across a mouth cancer case


LOL...thanks for the encouragement on quitting orb! bought me a nice new tine of spearamint on the way home tonite. wtf, we all need our vice, right?
 
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