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Does Anyone Consider Italian Heritage as Latin?

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I do, when people say latin i always think greek or italian instead of south american or spanish like everyone else
 
latin is not greek, i don't know where that idea came from. the original inhabitants of italy before the rise of rome were referred to as the latins. even after greeks came and settle in italy and created rome, they were referred to as latins because of the language. but italians are not latin in the sense that latin americans are. i have no idea what the etymology behind that is. spaniards also aren't referred to as latin, nor hispanic. they're spanish.
 
PIGEON-RAT said:
latin is not greek, i don't know where that idea came from. the original inhabitants of italy before the rise of rome were referred to as the latins. even after greeks came and settle in italy and created rome, they were referred to as latins because of the language. but italians are not latin in the sense that latin americans are. i have no idea what the etymology behind that is. spaniards also aren't referred to as latin, nor hispanic. they're spanish.
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i thought the romans established rome? hmm, i guess i need to bust out my history book.
 
lemme try this, Im 100% Italian and When people ask u if you latin what do you say? to me i think anyone of spanish,greek,portugese or italian are latin descent. and not just the spanish people
 
Xiodus1 said:
lemme try this, Im 100% Italian and When people ask u if you latin what do you say? to me i think anyone of spanish,greek,portugese or italian are latin descent. and not just the spanish people
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perhaps you are mistaking 'latin' for 'mediterranean'?
 
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lemme try this, Im 100% Italian and When people ask u if you latin what do you say?


Ummmm,..... No. WTF kind of a question was that? How do you confuse latin w/ Italian? It's Common Sense. They are 2 seperate cultures/ nationalities. What the hell kind of Italian are you anyway?
 
You guys need to read up on your history books. Latins are descendents of a tribe of people called the Latini who were indigenous to central italy. The romans are a group of people who originated from asia minor and conquered with and mixed with people from central italy. The spanish are a mix of roman, arab and iberian. The spanish language itself is derived of approximately 25% arab and 75% latin. The people who call themselves "latin" are not really latin. Latinos or hispanics are the descendents of the spanish, indians (whom the spanish conquered and intermixed with) and african slaves. The italians are direct descendents of the Latins, much more so than any other people and thus deserve the title "latin" more than any other group. From my experience, hispanics are proud of their latin heritage without understanding that they are really just a mixing of people who were conquered by and intermixed with real latins.
 
Warpath said:
You guys need to read up on your history books. Latins are descendents of a tribe of people called the Latini who were indigenous to central italy. The romans are a group of people who originated from asia minor and conquered with and mixed with people from central italy. The spanish are a mix of roman, arab and iberian. The spanish language itself is derived of approximately 25% arab and 75% latin. The people who call themselves "latin" are not really latin. Latinos or hispanics are the descendents of the spanish, indians (whom the spanish conquered and intermixed with) and african slaves. The italians are direct descendents of the Latins, much more so than any other people and thus deserve the title "latin" more than any other group. From my experience, hispanics are proud of their latin heritage without understanding that they are really just a mixing of people who were conquered by and intermixed with real latins.
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right. so when people use the term latin today, it really doesn't mean anything other than hispanic. only in the americas.

the romans who founded rome likely came from a greek city state. according to virgil's aeneid, as well as other classical texts, the defeated sons of troy fled the conquered city and went to italy, defeated the latins and founded rome.

today greeks, italians, spanish, and portuguese are all different peoples, despite some common ancestors. there are WAY too many stereotypes and misconceptions about the spanish and italians. italy was a divided nation of city states for most of its post-roman empire existence. southern italians have very different traits than northern italians. there are red haired, blonde haired and blue eyed italians, mostly coming from the north. southern italians and sicilians are typically darker. this is all due to different ancestors, germanic tribes in the north, and a whole mix of mediterranean ethnicities in the south.

there are also spanish redheads and blondes. galicia is a region in spain where the people have celtic ancestors and speak a mix of spanish and gaelic. people in catelunia speak catalan, a mix between french and spanish, because of their mixed heritage.

they're all different peoples, and are only united by their nation, even some against their will (basque).

people must ask you if you're latin because of dark hair and tan skin, am i right? if you're italian, you answer no. you're not latin.
 
back in the day (history book times) terms like latin, spanish, french are used to describe people, but orginally they were used to discern people by language because most people in the beginning of civilization nearly all looked alike (in the meditterainen) so people were able to figure out who they are by their language. also french, italian, romanian, and spanish (romantic lauguages) are all a result from latin as the base of each, so in fact anyone that speaks either of those languages can be considered a latino.
in my latin american studies class my professor (who has a PhD in latin maerican studies) refers to people from france latinos every once in a while.

more commonly these days "latino" is referred to people from a spanish/portuguese(location) decent and now live in "latin america". the term latino has a different meaning now a days. it is used to describe language rather than location. so yes an italian can be called a latino.
 
Ummmm,..... No. WTF kind of a question was that? How do you confuse latin w/ Italian? It's Common Sense. They are 2 seperate cultures/ nationalities. What the hell kind of Italian are you anyway? [/B][/QUOTE]

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Good answers warpath, beachbum, and Pigeon . i was just looking for some opinions.
 
interesting answer beachbum. i don't buy it though. common sense and today's thoughts prevail. latin does NOT mean greek or italian in 2003.
 
glennds said:
interesting answer beachbum. i don't buy it though. common sense and today's thoughts prevail. latin does NOT mean greek or italian in 2003.
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ur being too narrowminded about this. yes, alot of people in america will hear latino and think mexican, colombian, puerto rican etc. but what about the people that live in Europe? what do they think when they hear latino? (going off an answer my prof. gave me) if the european(mostly in mediterraen areas) have not been "americanized", which means not letting american culture influence them enough to affect their views, they will think of italians most commonly.
 
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