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SaltyOlPirate
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I think that if you took a blood test and it came back with very low testosterone levels. It would be easier for a doc to justify writing you a perscription. I'm going to try this approach with my doctor.
I went in about a month ago because I thought I had a possible abbcess or infection in my delt. I explained to him what I was taking and my technique. The first thing out of his mouth was "does it give you a good pump in the gym?" and that "Are you sure what your taking is clean?" No lecture..No guilt trip which I thought was cool as hell. I'm planning on going in to see him soon and asking him if he can give me a prescription or refer me to someone who would. Any thoughts to this?
I went in about a month ago because I thought I had a possible abbcess or infection in my delt. I explained to him what I was taking and my technique. The first thing out of his mouth was "does it give you a good pump in the gym?" and that "Are you sure what your taking is clean?" No lecture..No guilt trip which I thought was cool as hell. I'm planning on going in to see him soon and asking him if he can give me a prescription or refer me to someone who would. Any thoughts to this?
HansNZ
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I had a plastic surgeon advise me to take steroids once. I was there for a different reason, but I commented about my inability to get certain muscles in proprtion. He said "you should do a cycle of steroids". I was really surprised. I wish I had asked him to write me a prescription 
steroid law reform is not that impossible, the whole steroids conspiracy was started by a book by dr bob goldman ,this was back in the 1980's when no studies were done on steroid safety etc all it would take is a new book with actualy science studies and logic id call it "lies in the locker room" now i know 1 book will do shit but the books purpose is to just stir up some media attention ,then im sure the anti aging doctors will step up there arguments for law reform with actual studies , you have rick collins whod voice his support almost any article on steroids in the ny papers has his voice there saying they should be legal for a adult , supposidly jesse ventura is pro steroid so he might voice a opinion all it takes is a doctor (not a guru ) to have the balls and step up write a real book or somerthing
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DaMan said:
no.. i do trust some people.. but i distrust doctodd and ulter the most..
and i never said ulter was a scammer.. i said i don't think some of the products in his store are worth a crap and they're only in there for him to make a buck by taking advantage of his position as a "vet" and "mod".. that's all.
Bar Room Hero
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haha, are you serious? "Dressed up in my white coat." That would be proof enough for me.
HansNZ
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A compromise could be that steroids are available to whomever asks for them like any OTC drug, but instead of buying them from a pharmacy, you have to get them from a doctor.
Assuming doctors would actually learn something about steroids before they start scaring people unnecessarily, then that would be a way to ensure people are told about their side-effects, and what to take to minismise them.
We might get the best of both worlds this way: legal availability and people who are informed about their use and monitored by their doctor.
Assuming doctors would actually learn something about steroids before they start scaring people unnecessarily, then that would be a way to ensure people are told about their side-effects, and what to take to minismise them.
We might get the best of both worlds this way: legal availability and people who are informed about their use and monitored by their doctor.
they shouldnt be otc they should be gotten by a doctor , also a doctor should be able to prescribe it like candy or they go to jail , but unless a medical doctor brings it to supreme court liek whats goign on with l-tryptophan , since aas use under a doctor is perfectly safe its unconstitutional to have the illegal
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notpuff said:
This is just not true.......AAS is not perfectly safe evidenced by the liver toxicity, high BP, high cholesterol and other sides both long and short term which are VERY common. I see plenty of elevated LFT's....but the reason we dont see more is cuz alot of AAS users dont get their LFT's and other things checked partly due to denial. You KNOW they will be high. You KNOW other things like BP and cholesterol and other things will be abnormal. ALOT of you guys KNOW you are hurting yourselves(notice i didnt say ALL you guys).
But i do agree that there is a stigma against using AAS. This is too long a subject to get into.
T
DocTodd said:
LFT? Lung function? Lemme know what, I'm superanal about stuff like that and am getting blood work pre, during, and post, as well as hormone panels... (and obviously won't cycle if anything relevant is outta the ordinary) - couldn't find LFT on any of 'em, though.
Thx.
Re: LFT..
Ahhh... thx.
My "liver protection cycle" consists of Milk Thistle (1g), Tyler Liver detox (6 tabs/ed), ALA (900mg/day), Calcium D-Glucarate (2 caps/day), as well as some L-Glutathione thrown in because it's cheap. Not to mention 2gal water ed.
My cycle ain't THAT strong, so I'm assuming I'll survive it pretty well... and I don't drink either (est'd 3 drinks a month)...
Any other suggestions or sthg I may have missed? Would appreciate all help I can get, my health insurance sucks
DrJMW said:
Ahhh... thx.
My "liver protection cycle" consists of Milk Thistle (1g), Tyler Liver detox (6 tabs/ed), ALA (900mg/day), Calcium D-Glucarate (2 caps/day), as well as some L-Glutathione thrown in because it's cheap. Not to mention 2gal water ed.
My cycle ain't THAT strong, so I'm assuming I'll survive it pretty well... and I don't drink either (est'd 3 drinks a month)...
Any other suggestions or sthg I may have missed? Would appreciate all help I can get, my health insurance sucks
Why decem... I don't know what to say... I'm <sniff> all choked up that you trust me the least. <sniff>
Really bro you crack me up. You don't even know me and you are up all night sticking pins in little ulter dolls. How's that job hunting going BTW?
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Really bro you crack me up. You don't even know me and you are up all night sticking pins in little ulter dolls. How's that job hunting going BTW?
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nautica
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Bros. we keep saying steroids need to be legalized. What does that mean. They are legal with prescription.
What needs to happen is that anabolics need to be remove from the controlled substance list.
I believe this will help take some of the stigma off anabolics and more research can be done. Therefore, people who truly need anabolics will have doctors with knowledge about the benefits of AAS (Post menaposal women, elderly, aids patients and others with serious illnesses or injuries. As well as people who would like to use them in lieu of plastic surgery, which has a much higher mortality rate than using aas.)
I would love to be able to walk into my local doctors office. Ask him to run test and if everything was fine - Then doc I want to get big, please prescibe me - anadrol, test cyp, ect... Thanks doc, I will be back in 2 weeks to run the test again.
If my test results are bad. No doc will prescrib them. Which is best.
Any other thoughts?
What needs to happen is that anabolics need to be remove from the controlled substance list.
I believe this will help take some of the stigma off anabolics and more research can be done. Therefore, people who truly need anabolics will have doctors with knowledge about the benefits of AAS (Post menaposal women, elderly, aids patients and others with serious illnesses or injuries. As well as people who would like to use them in lieu of plastic surgery, which has a much higher mortality rate than using aas.)
I would love to be able to walk into my local doctors office. Ask him to run test and if everything was fine - Then doc I want to get big, please prescibe me - anadrol, test cyp, ect... Thanks doc, I will be back in 2 weeks to run the test again.
If my test results are bad. No doc will prescrib them. Which is best.
Any other thoughts?
Bulldog_10
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I don't give a fuck whether he's a doc or not! He's a good fuckin guy! He's always helping people out and all he gets is shit from people because they are too Fuckin skeptical of every little fuckin thing!
Whether he is a doctor or not, he gives advice as if he is. Decem claimed that Doctodd gave out some shitty info that "proved" that he wasn't a doctor. But when Todd challenged him to post some of the shit he was talking about, guess what? Nothing!
Get off the guy's back!
Whether he is a doctor or not, he gives advice as if he is. Decem claimed that Doctodd gave out some shitty info that "proved" that he wasn't a doctor. But when Todd challenged him to post some of the shit he was talking about, guess what? Nothing!
Get off the guy's back!
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Primo57
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Hey DocTodd - have you ever actually had a case where someone
had abnormal BP from using gear? Just curious? I think there's only 2 known case studies that showed a connection to AS and high BP - and in fact systolic pressure only increased from 118 mm Hg to 120 mm Hg on 25mg/d of d-ball. If so do you think it was a result of 1 7-alphas (just about every other problem seems to be associated with them). My BP does increase slightly, but I usually take Beta-agonists and some sort of oral in every cycle.
had abnormal BP from using gear? Just curious? I think there's only 2 known case studies that showed a connection to AS and high BP - and in fact systolic pressure only increased from 118 mm Hg to 120 mm Hg on 25mg/d of d-ball. If so do you think it was a result of 1 7-alphas (just about every other problem seems to be associated with them). My BP does increase slightly, but I usually take Beta-agonists and some sort of oral in every cycle.
Primo57 said:
Not any specific patient, but i dont follow any chronic AAS users. The only guys i have ever put on AAS were HIV or chronically ill patients. I am dealing with alot of cancer patients right now and i may push to get some of them on it too. But i dont have the final say. Only 2 known case studies sounds very small to me, but i havent done a search on it. I dont know the answer to wether the 1 7 alphas are the cause.....i dont really know or deal with the biochemistry of steroids. Andy13 would be the guy to ask that question to.
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Im in my last year of residency so i dont need a license. When i know what state ill be working in after i finish, then ill apply for that license. Even if i did have it i wouldnt give it out.
Just ask guys here who have gotten scripts called in from me. When i call the pharmacy, then i usually have to give my department DEA number.
T
Just ask guys here who have gotten scripts called in from me. When i call the pharmacy, then i usually have to give my department DEA number.
T
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