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Do material things really make a difference?

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Ok...I am dirt poor. Flat broke. I have an old truck that is far from perfect. I am finishing college and live at home with my family till December when I graduate. I can't afford nice clothes because they cost a ton to find nice clothes to fit a 290lb guy. I just turned 24. I am a security guard and barely make enough money to scrape by.

Ok...ever feel that you have nothing to offer a woman or someone of the opposite sex? I get that feeling all the time.

When someone asks me what I do...I hate to tell them. When someone asks where I live...I hate to tell them. When someone asks what I drive...I hate to tell them.

Maybe I just fear that if someone knows how poor I really am, they will never take the time to look inside of my heart.

I am not saying that women or men are superficial when they are looking for someone to be with...but I do think that it makes a difference sometimes. Once someone takes the time to see inside of your heart and they love you...all rules are out the window and nothing matters...trust me...I know. But till then...do you think that money and social status really matters?

Off to work

B True
 
B~

Number one it all depends on the person you are telling this too at the time, some ppl are materialistic.

But I honestly think you should give your self some credit here~ you are STILL in college! You are in the midst of making something of yourself!! So what you live at home, and drive a piece of shit truck, at least you are going to be something great once you graduate~

Hold off on making a relationship with a lady until you are done with school, and move out. Then once you have a stable ground for yourself, you will feel very different about this subject!

Keep your head up and quit thinking these stupid thoughts!!:D
 
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find a girl who loves you for you,i know how it feels not to have alot of coin,wanna know my solution the outlet mall,i went there for school shopping this year and i spent 150 on 2 ck shirts 2 pairs of tommy pants,this would cost you over 300 in a normal store and its the same damn clothes,i dont tell anyone where i shop cuz they wouldnt know the difference
 
B FOLD, hey brotha I feel ya..

when I was younger, my family struggled a bit (when I was in JR. HIGH) and thats when every kid on the planet was buying the "new jordan's for like 150 bucks and shit, wearing GUESS jeans, etc.

Just keep your head up..Nothing is more virtuous than a hard working person who stays positive.

Just like I told Smalmovesal (my personal motivational tool):

Life is tough, but are you tougher?

Very few people ever outmuscle and out think this game we call life.

Bro, if you're a good person, people will respect you. Not all people cuz some people are shit heads and dont give a fuck and are shallow, but the important people in your life and around you will respect and love you for who you are

Money is the root of all evil.

Good luck to ya man...keep that head up playa
 
Do you really want to be with a Money hungry, material bitch anyway?
I married a simple, beautiful, down to earth woman and showed her the finer things in life.
She is frugal, yet knows "you get what you pay for".

You are just starting out in life.
If you are still in the same position in 20 years, you deserve to be alone.
 
In the real world yes money does matter...Of course plenty of people would be happy if you weren't rich thats not what I'm getting at, but if your not able to live on your own thats going to make someone think hmmm...I wonder what he's going to do to improve upon his future.

If you find a woman who cares for you then she wont care that you have made sacrifices like living at home and driving an older truck inorder to finish college. Hell you would think thats something they would admire but that isn't always the case.

Work your ass off for you, and screw the money hungry bastards of the world. Just remember your day will come and those that dissed you when you were down you can just smile at them and tell them to kiss off.
 
They make a difference to me. Plus I need them to get the kind of girls that would double up on a dude like me.
 
B,

Freedom is more imprtant than money. Don't trade your dreams for false security. Most people are slaves to their job anyway, and a slave is a slave at $28K per year or at $190K per year.

peace, and fuck slavery
 
The whole material thing is really an inborn feeling, I don't know if you'd call it instinct, but it's natural for humans to be drawn to people, especially a mate, with power, and in todays day and age, money is power, as is the material posessions you own. That's just the way it really is. The closer you are to the power, the more powerful you feel. Though some people don't really care, thankfully, and I really cannot stand materialistic people at all, and I wouldn't be caught dead lusting over a gold diggin bitch. If I want anyone to like me, it better be for who I am and not for what I got in the bank. That's why I dred the day I become rich, cause of course I'm going to have a nice car and all, and it's not like you can hide it anymore after that. And you know how many car hoes there are out there. "Oh my god he has such an awesome car, he's SO HOT!" I hate that shit. God HELP me if I ever became famous.:D
 
Anyone who says money isn't everything has never been wealthy.

Anyone who says money IS everything has never been poor.

Do material things really make a difference? YES. Everything that composes the whole makes a difference.

Who are you?

You are your car, your house, your wallet, but you are also your kindness, your intelligence, your values, etc. To say that material things have nothing to do with who a person is is the same as saying that a person's heart or his intelligence has nothing to do with who he is. EVERYTHING that has to do with the way a person lives his life DOES make a difference.

Just because someone is fabulously wealthy doesn't make him a bad person, likewise, just because someone ISN'T fabulously wealthy doesn't make him a bad person either (or a good person).

Like Matt said, it's all about freedom. You said that you hate this and you hate that, yada yada yada. There are two rules in life. There are only TWO (TWO) things that you "have" to do in life.

1) Pay taxes.
2) Die.

My goal in life has been to be able to live by only those two rules. To never "have" to do anything else. What is your problem? You "have" to not be able to afford nice clothes. You "have" to be a security guard and barely make any money. Wrong! You don't "have" to! You're allowing life to set too many rules for you!

Wait until December and then tell us what the "rules" are.

-Warik
 
Unfortunately some people due base their opinions
of others on material items.
I know that guys would tell me how they wish
they were in my boat because of the car I drove
or the bike I owned.
Personally I envied them, for when they go home
they go home to a wife and kids. I think that is more important than the toys you might own.
 
Two words: Tim Williams

I used to be a teacher and this kid, Tim Williams, never had a notebook. I'd nag at him: "Tim, why don't you have a notebook?"

"Because, Miss _______, I'm 'po'! I'm so 'po' I can't even afford the 'o' and the 'r'!"

This kid was dirt poor and wore the same T-shirt almost every day. But he was the funniest kid in class, the most respectful, the most interested in the world around him.

I cry when I think of him and believe me: if I was a 16 year old girl, I would have been in luuuuuv.

If a guy can't make me laugh and feel appreciated for me, I don't care what he could buy me!! Hell, no!

And if he's a wonderful person, but poor as a church mouse, so what? We'll live in a hovel, eat mac & cheese for dinner, but have the best time!
 
i was at a night club in beverly hills once..where all the money grubbing pigs hang out...oh yeah and wantabee dickheads....so i had this pig come up to me ..it took her about 2 minutes to ask me what i did for a living....so i told the pig i worked for the city....she ask what do you do for the city....i said work for the sanitation dept....so the pig all of a sudden had to go find her friends.....later that night she was talking to the owner of the club who was a friend of mine and i walked by to say hello to him....she made a comment to him that your friend is a trash man and the pig laughed....he said oh no my dear he could probably but the trash company...so later on the pig came back up to me with dollar signs gleaming in her fucking eyes and wanted to talk....i politely responded.." i'm sorry i dont talk to bleached blonde fake tits no talent money grubbing whores" and i walked away...this is not like me to talk to anyone like this but in this fucking town you become jaded real quick
 
I hate to tell you, but 98% of women are looking for a bank account, not a studley manly man like ourselves.

I know how you feel. I felt the same way while I was in the military and in college. I was very lucky to have found my wife, who is less stressed about buying a bigger house than I am. She is purely happy to be alive.

Your sould mate will find you, I guess I should say you'll find each other. When that happens what you drive and what you make will not be an issue. The only thing that will matter is that you are alive and with her.

I wished I lived in a small town in Kentucky, waiting in line everywhere sucks. Running the rat race sucks. I wanna be where what matters is when the town is having a social function again, and everyone goes and gets loaded.
 
bro there is nothing wrong with a girl looking for a guy with money....shit who wants to struggle through life all the time....but there are the ones out there thats all they care about....avoid them at all cost
 
Warik said:
Anyone who says money isn't everything has never been wealthy.

Anyone who says money IS everything has never been poor.

Do material things really make a difference? YES. Everything that composes the whole makes a difference.

Who are you?

You are your car, your house, your wallet, but you are also your kindness, your intelligence, your values, etc. To say that material things have nothing to do with who a person is is the same as saying that a person's heart or his intelligence has nothing to do with who he is. EVERYTHING that has to do with the way a person lives his life DOES make a difference.

Just because someone is fabulously wealthy doesn't make him a bad person, likewise, just because someone ISN'T fabulously wealthy doesn't make him a bad person either (or a good person).

Like Matt said, it's all about freedom. You said that you hate this and you hate that, yada yada yada. There are two rules in life. There are only TWO (TWO) things that you "have" to do in life.

1) Pay taxes.
2) Die.

My goal in life has been to be able to live by only those two rules. To never "have" to do anything else. What is your problem? You "have" to not be able to afford nice clothes. You "have" to be a security guard and barely make any money. Wrong! You don't "have" to! You're allowing life to set too many rules for you!

Wait until December and then tell us what the "rules" are.

-Warik
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true words, you watched fight club too much, its alright its my favorite movie and i watch it religiously,

peace
 
The only material things that matter to me:

My toolbelt

My new shurikens

Rope

Buck Knife

Scalpel

Collection of Folk Rock 8-Tracks

Iron Maiden Bandana

My still

Machete

Shovel

Katana

Rebar
 
BFold you are young and have plenty of time to make your mark on the world if that is what you want out of life.
 
b fold the truth said:
Ok...I am dirt poor. Flat broke. I have an old truck that is far from perfect. I am finishing college and live at home with my family till December when I graduate. I can't afford nice clothes because they cost a ton to find nice clothes to fit a 290lb guy. I just turned 24. I am a security guard and barely make enough money to scrape by.

There are more people like you than you might think...you certainly aren't alone.

Ok...ever feel that you have nothing to offer a woman or someone of the opposite sex? I get that feeling all the time.

YES. It's hard not to when our world constantly tells us that you have to look a certain way to be attractive.

How on earth did you end up on Elite Fitness if you don't mind me asking??? Seems like you came to exactly the wrong place to have your 'inner beauty' appreciated...don't you think? Do you see what i mean? No offense but i'm curious...

When someone asks me what I do...I hate to tell them. When someone asks where I live...I hate to tell them. When someone asks what I drive...I hate to tell them.

Uh...been there, done that...still am there in fact...in some ways...

Maybe I just fear that if someone knows how poor I really am, they will never take the time to look inside of my heart.

VERY good insight. Not many people can see that it is fear which motivates a surprising amount of human behavior...including MINE :)

But...I would look at your heart. Maybe i already saw a bit. Hm....not bad, so far ;):D

I am not saying that women or men are superficial when they are looking for someone to be with...but I do think that it makes a difference sometimes.

Yeah but you aren't looking for someone like that. So they will naturally self-select out of your life. Imagine how awful it is to have beauty or wealth and have tons of people after you just because of those. Those people would look at your heart even less then :(

So in a way this gets rid of all those people you don't want anyway... :D

Once someone takes the time to see inside of your heart and they love you...all rules are out the window and nothing matters...trust me...I know.

Weeeellll i think i see your point but you still need to respect each other. All too often the respect gradually goes after a while...and marriages get messed up :(

I'm glad you know that...someone must love you...you are very blessed! :)

But till then...do you think that money and social status really matters?

NO, so that means you don't need to hate telling people the truth do you, sweetheart? :)

Off to work

I hope you had a nice day... :)

B True

I'll do my best...you too :).

love
helen
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Theres a paradox here

Money buys freedom

There are different types of freedom but the ranges of all of them are predetermined by money.

We are a slave to money wether we like it or not, the question is do you want to be a rich slave or a poor slave.....

You have to find a happy medium
 
Do you have:
1) A roof over your head?
2)Food in your belly?
3)Good health?
4)Supportive, loving family?
5)Friends? I mean true freinds who do not care what you have or do not have?

If you can answer "Yes" to these questions..You are RICH!
 
you are so right, actually.

money literally buys slaves free - although they ought never to have been slaves :(

but also poverty binds us up in worry and worse, because we are unable to take care of basic needs, we are bound in that way...

yeah, excellent point, Liberator! :)

love
helen
 
Money may NOT make the world go 'round.......
But love DON'T PAY THE RENT!


Having said that, I want you to know that I understand your frustation. I grew up poor and have lived modestly most of my life. Hell, even if I could afford it....I STILL wouldn't pay full price at The Gap! - LOL!

Yes, we NEED money to buy the things we NEED and the things we WANT..... But could you buy back your health?.....or your way out of death row? Could you buy back the life of a child that has been brutally murdered or a spouse that was horribly crippled in a senseless drunk driving accident?

What is most important to me? The health and well-being of my girls (and my own health and well being of course). Could you buy thier love and affection? HELL NO - THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE CAN NOT BE BOUGHT!!!!!!

If you do not like your life - MAKE CHANGES! :) They are difficult and quite frightening....but where there is a will - THERE'S A WAY!!!!
 
The most important things in life cannot be bought no, but money led to them and money will maintain them

Your life was bought the moment you were born, from that day onwards you have to pay it back
 
Someone found this post the other day and gave me karma for it.

I went back and read it...man...I've sure come a long way in 4 years.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
Someone found this post the other day and gave me karma for it.

I went back and read it...man...I've sure come a long way in 4 years.

B True
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congratulations. 4 years can make a huge diference.
 
b fold the truth said:
Someone found this post the other day and gave me karma for it.

I went back and read it...man...I've sure come a long way in 4 years.

B True
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Hey, big guy....
 
You shouldn't feel guilty for living at home while you're finishing school, but if you still live at your mom's when your 40 ...
 
I think its only natural for a woman to want to be economically secure, just makes sense.
College is totally different.

But golddiggers do exist and you should treat them for what they are, you should know what to expect out of that short term relationship. Just dont get attached.
 
b fold the truth said:
Ok...I am dirt poor. Flat broke. I have an old truck that is far from perfect. I am finishing college and live at home with my family till December when I graduate. I can't afford nice clothes because they cost a ton to find nice clothes to fit a 290lb guy. I just turned 24. I am a security guard and barely make enough money to scrape by.

Ok...ever feel that you have nothing to offer a woman or someone of the opposite sex? I get that feeling all the time.

When someone asks me what I do...I hate to tell them. When someone asks where I live...I hate to tell them. When someone asks what I drive...I hate to tell them.

Maybe I just fear that if someone knows how poor I really am, they will never take the time to look inside of my heart.

I am not saying that women or men are superficial when they are looking for someone to be with...but I do think that it makes a difference sometimes. Once someone takes the time to see inside of your heart and they love you...all rules are out the window and nothing matters...trust me...I know. But till then...do you think that money and social status really matters?

Off to work

B True
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Yes I think to many people money and social status does matter. Your education and the family you come from play an important part in ones decision if they wish to go out with you or not.

However if a young man/woman is just starting out in life and he/she is clearly showing that they have goals and work towards those goals a rational person would not judge them based only on their material posessions. Offcourse it if important to show that you are clean, have good manners and good friends. After all who would want to associate with criminals except for the criminals themselves and lawyers (and lawyers are criminals too LOL j/k ;))

In my experience I have come accross people who feel the same as you do and that affects their self esteem which is really sad. Don't feel like you have to satisfy anyone else but yoursself. Work towards your goals, the course you are stadying will help you get a better job therefore more money.

I like to befriend people from all different backgrounds, regarless of their social status, how they dress up and what car they drive just as long as they don't put my life in danger. This is due from my parents teachings. That it's better to provide for your ownself and not to wait for someone else's charity.
Not everyone is that way so you would have to choose your friends carefully who value your heart, not superficial stuff like rugs and precious metals.
 
b fold the truth said:
Ok...I am dirt poor. Flat broke. I have an old truck that is far from perfect. I am finishing college and live at home with my family till December when I graduate. I can't afford nice clothes because they cost a ton to find nice clothes to fit a 290lb guy. I just turned 24. I am a security guard and barely make enough money to scrape by.

Ok...ever feel that you have nothing to offer a woman or someone of the opposite sex? I get that feeling all the time.

When someone asks me what I do...I hate to tell them. When someone asks where I live...I hate to tell them. When someone asks what I drive...I hate to tell them.

Maybe I just fear that if someone knows how poor I really am, they will never take the time to look inside of my heart.

I am not saying that women or men are superficial when they are looking for someone to be with...but I do think that it makes a difference sometimes. Once someone takes the time to see inside of your heart and they love you...all rules are out the window and nothing matters...trust me...I know. But till then...do you think that money and social status really matters?

Off to work

B True
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you must have some $$, your plat man!
 
So, BFold, how has your situation evolved in those 4 years ?
 
Fifteen percent of women in the United States send themselves flowers on Valentine's Day.
 
Yasmina said:
Yes I think to many people money and social status does matter. Your education and the family you come from play an important part in ones decision if they wish to go out with you or not.

However if a young man/woman is just starting out in life and he/she is clearly showing that they have goals and work towards those goals a rational person would not judge them based only on their material posessions. Offcourse it if important to show that you are clean, have good manners and good friends. After all who would want to associate with criminals except for the criminals themselves and lawyers (and lawyers are criminals too LOL j/k ;))

In my experience I have come accross people who feel the same as you do and that affects their self esteem which is really sad. Don't feel like you have to satisfy anyone else but yoursself. Work towards your goals, the course you are stadying will help you get a better job therefore more money.

I like to befriend people from all different backgrounds, regarless of their social status, how they dress up and what car they drive just as long as they don't put my life in danger. This is due from my parents teachings. That it's better to provide for your ownself and not to wait for someone else's charity.
Not everyone is that way so you would have to choose your friends carefully who value your heart, not superficial stuff like rugs and precious metals.
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OMFG!!!
Befriend poor people as long as they don't hurt you bwahahaha :laugh2:.
Get over yourself! Can't all have daddies like your's :rolleyes:
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
OMFG!!!
Befriend poor people as long as they don't hurt you bwahahaha :laugh2:.
Get over yourself! Can't all have daddies like your's :rolleyes:
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she's using common sense
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
came off as superficial and stuck up to me.
shouldn't you be writing more poems...
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I fart in your general direction
 
Anthrax said:
So, BFold, how has your situation evolved in those 4 years ?
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Quite a bit...lol

I now live on an island in the Med Sea, I can see the Sea from my windows, live in a HUGE apartment, have a wonderful wife-to-very-soon-be, working for myself, am a Pro Athlete, there is a BMW in the driveway, have my degree, etc...

B True
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
OMFG!!!
Befriend poor people as long as they don't hurt you bwahahaha :laugh2:.
Get over yourself! Can't all have daddies like your's :rolleyes:
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She said "as long as they dont put my life in danger"
Ill take it one further and say I wouldnt befriend anyone if they put my life in danger. Seems like a no brainer to me.
 
They serve as the icing on the cake of each person's personality.
 
b fold the truth said:
Quite a bit...lol

I now live on an island in the Med Sea, I can see the Sea from my windows, live in a HUGE apartment, have a wonderful wife-to-very-soon-be, working for myself, am a Pro Athlete, there is a BMW in the driveway, have my degree, etc...

B True
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Who would have thought that Clint?

Good for you.:)
 
Get on some Deca and stay on it until you get out of college. You'll give up on trying to get it up and you wont even bother trying to get with girls anymore.
 
Spanky11 said:
he is a true inspiration.
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Cheers to that, B is a good man... all except that 'dressed as a nun' incident.. but that's all WAY in the past...


;)



Glad things are going your way, Mr.B, cheers to you!
 
I think it's nice to have nice things if you can afford them. I think it's stupid to go into a ton of debt just to have nice stuff. Friends of ours have a mortgage they can barely pay, 2 cars they can barely afford, but they just financed a 6k tv. I think that's stupid.

If my house burned down today I'd want to rescue my animals only. The stuff is just stuff.
 
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