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Do I need HCG on test e/tbol

luda281

Banned
30yo
5'7"
165lbs
8-9% bf
3rd cycle

Test e 1-10 500mg
Tbol 1-5 40mg
Proviron 1-10 25mg
Nolva 12-15
Hcgenerate 12-15
Post cycle 12-15


Do I really need hcg for this cycle? Some
People are telling me no?
 
did you notice any testicular shrinkage on your other cycles?what wer your other cycles?

I did notice some but not too bad. I notice my balls getting bigger
More than it shrinking. Like my balls got bigger than it ever had been after my cycle and pct.


I did sust 350 in winter 2010 and test e in fall of 2011
 
If ur taking HCGenerate that should be good enough , keep the other one on hand just in case


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Hcg will help keep u plump.. Its a good ancillary to run while on... Btw ditch the nolva.. Anything is better than nolva bro...

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use the hcgenerate last 4 wks of cycle to get your balls ready for pct...then unleashed post cycle..low dose clomid if u have any
 
use the hcgenerate last 4 wks of cycle to get your balls ready for pct...then unleashed post cycle..low dose clomid if u have any
yep^^^ I would also bump that proviron to 50mg/ed and if you don't have enough run it at the back end of the cycle at 50mg/ed instead of the whole way through at 25mg
 
I would still run HCG regardless, to give you that extra boost as well. Always run your HCG during and double up your dosages during your PCT.
 
Well one person says you dont need ancillaries and another says you do. I'm hearing hcg is only needed for deca or tren not test cycles because you can recover fine without it. I've never taken hcg for my other two cycles and recovered fine. One cycle on with OTC products
 
^^^ testosterone actually suppresses you severely, that is definately a myth out there that it doesn't.. i would say definately use it to kickstart your pct, it will speed up recovery so why not keep more gains and recover faster. i would use it on every cycle longer than 6 weeks.. if you run a short 4 weeker you don't need it

also look into HMG, it does what hcg does but more naturally.. 1 or 2 hits of that works very nicely stacked with hcg. i use 1 hit myself

when you go into PCT with raisin nuts its like pushing a car up a hill, it is tough. but when you go into pct with plump nuts then its so much easier to recover quickly.

all you need is 5 hits of hcg at 1000iu's every 3 days along with 1 hit of HMG to kickstart pct. so it isn't expensive at all. and during cycle use hcgenerate to keep the nuts plump and save yourself even more money

i actually feel guilty doing this its almost like cheating
 
yep^^^ I would also bump that proviron to 50mg/ed and if you don't have enough run it at the back end of the cycle at 50mg/ed instead of the whole way through at 25mg


That sounds like a good Idea. I didn't know if you could do that? How many weeks backloaded at 50mg do I need to do it for?
 
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