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Do all AAS aromatize?

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samuel1975

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Looking for info. on which AAS aromatize and at what rate? To determine amount of anti-e's?
Or info. showing suggested amounts of anti-e per AAS would be good.
 
The profile on OT says that it does not aromatize either as well. I have never personally tried it, but it's listed as non aromatizing
 
For example: Winstrol, tren, anadrol are derived from DHT, not test. Other gear like insulin, GH, and IGF have nothing to do with testosterone.
 
Ulter said:
Is that right. Where did you learn that from?
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This is the quickest thing I could find that says winstrol and anadrol are derived from DHT. And just because they are derived from DHT doesn't mean they won't aromatize.
 
Nandrolone is different from Testosterone in only that the methyl (CH3) group has been removed from C10 and replaced by a hydrogen. It does NOT aromatize into estrogen. and considering DHT is derived from testosterone I don't see how you can say anything is derived from DHT and not testosterone also.
 
JonPee said:
Nandrolone is different from Testosterone in only that the methyl (CH3) group has been removed from C10 and replaced by a hydrogen. It does NOT aromatize into estrogen. and considering DHT is derived from testosterone I don't see how you can say anything is derived from DHT and not testosterone also.
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So what, DHT is still not test even though it came from test. And the difference between test derived gear, and DHT derived gear, is that MOST DHT based gear has little to no aromatization. That was the whole point in me saying what I said to begin with. Notice I said most and not all.
 
JonPee said:
Nandrolone is different from Testosterone in only that the methyl (CH3) group has been removed from C10 and replaced by a hydrogen. It does NOT aromatize into estrogen. and considering DHT is derived from testosterone I don't see how you can say anything is derived from DHT and not testosterone also.
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And YES deca WILL aromatize in high enough doses
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catdeca.htm
 
Guvna said:
nor do they have anything to do with AAS, or "gear"
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I never said they were AAS, but why would you say they are not gear? Show me where it says gear is restricted to AAS and I'll believe you. What about T3?
 
krishna said:
I never said they were AAS, but why would you say they are not gear? Show me where it says gear is restricted to AAS and I'll believe you. What about T3?
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Well you edited your original post, so the comparison I was going to make will not be understood by anyone...

But generally "gear" does refer to only AAS.


Also, the guy asked "do all aas aromatize?" not, does all "gear" aromatize. Then you made referrence to "gear," and how it has nothing to do with test. So, you tell me what you referring to....
 
I edited that before our little conversation here. And someone said that all GEAR was test based, and that's when I brought up the GH etc. Seems like our opinions on what gear is don't exactly match up. Like I said, if you can prove it to me, I will believe you. Otherwise, you have your opinion, and I have mine.
 
bruce410 said:
anavar and primo and winny all do not aromatize. even eq is unlikely to aromitize.
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eq does aromatize, but only about 20% that of most test based gear, and the symptoms are rarely noticeable with eq.
ur DHT gear will not aromatize , like proviron, mesterolone,
OT neither.
 
LVTitan said:
this is wrong.
gear is based on one of three molecules.
1. testosterone
2. nandrolone
3. dihydrotestosterone
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Thank you! This is the original point I was trying to make.
 
krishna said:
For example: Winstrol, tren, anadrol are derived from DHT, not test. Other gear like insulin, GH, and IGF have nothing to do with testosterone.
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actually tren is a nandrolone based gear.
here guys:

test based gear:
eq, dbol, halo, .....

nandrolone based:
tren, deca

dht based:
mesterolone, drostanolone, anadrol, winny, anavar, primo
 
JonPee said:
Nandrolone is different from Testosterone in only that the methyl (CH3) group has been removed from C10 and replaced by a hydrogen. It does NOT aromatize into estrogen. and considering DHT is derived from testosterone I don't see how you can say anything is derived from DHT and not testosterone also.
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deca most certainly DOES aromatize, just because it doesnt convert to estrogen does not meet it doesn't aromatize. you can get gyno from deca.
and test and DHT are completely different acting hormones, even though they are structurally similar.
take dbol and eq for example. dbol is the exact same molecule as eq, except it has been c17aa for oral bioavailability, but yet they do not function the same in the body.
 
LVTitan said:
actually tren is a nandrolone based gear.
here guys:

test based gear:
eq, dbol, halo, .....

nandrolone based:
tren, deca

dht based:
mesterolone, drostanolone, anadrol, winny, anavar, primo
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Right! I wasn't sure about tren, but I knew it wasn't test based so I threw it in with the DHT derivitives. Thanks for pointing that out.
 
krishna said:
Wait a second, I didn't edit any posts on this thread. What are you talking about bro?
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my bad, I was reaidng somone else's.


Our opinions may differ, but just as long as no one has the misconception (as I did by reading your post), that IGF, slin, growth, might possibly be related to AAS at all, besides being gear (as you say) as well. :)
 
Right, they are not related to AAS as far as being a derivative of test; that was my point. However, they are anabolic growth agants, and hormones (like test) that require a script. That is why I consider them gear.
 
Ok heres a question then. If you take a combination of several non aromatizing steroids will the combination of the three make them more likey to aromatize due to your total number of mgs per week being higher?
 
Tren and Deca are related via nandrolone (19-nor-test) aromatizes at about 20% of the rate of test but to nor-estrogen rather than estrogen.
 
galaxy said:
Ok heres a question then. If you take a combination of several non aromatizing steroids will the combination of the three make them more likey to aromatize due to your total number of mgs per week being higher?
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If none of them aromatize, then none of them aromatize. I don't see how combining them will suddenly cause them to aromatize. The only DHT based gear that might aromatize (I've read mixed opinions) is anadrol. Other than that, If you combine the DHT derivatives, I don't think you will get any aromatization. I don't have any studies for this one; I'm just using logic.
 
Aromatize = being converted into estrogen. That does not happen, progesterone levels are what are raised. And no matter what you try and tell me Testosterone, DHT, and Nandrolone are so structurally similiar that it's silly to say gear is based on one but not the other. Especially considering testosterone is the one in which DHT and Nandrolone were based on. DHT and Nandrolone may be the "parents" of some drugs, but testosterone is definitely the "grandparent" if you get my analogy.
 
Even though they are similar, they are different. Test and DHT cause different reactions in the body (have different functions). I do see your point however, and this argument is starting to seem arbitrary and pointless.
 
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