i'm sure everyone who answered with an ignorant comment is just a wonderful bodybuilder who knows everything. i'm sure you were all born with great steroid knowledge. my guess is your all probally pieces of shit who never made anything of thier lives. don't take out your mis-fortunes in life out on a newbie. this place is supposed to help you with answers to questions you don't know. if i knew, i wouldn't ask. what gives body builders a bad name is pieces of shit who are all about themselves and do0n't want to help somebody out. i'm sure all you hard core wanna be MR. Olympia's had someone's help at first!