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DNP -- Potassium and possible dangers

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I've read alot about DNP causing a loss of electrolytes, especially potassium. I don't think that is totally true, as there are both both intra and extracellular potassium levels to take into consideration. I have heard of adding more potassium or V8 to a DNP cycle, but it could backfire, and be VERY harmful to people that have poor aldosterone function.

Time and time again, I've read, experiences have shown, and so on that DNP causes hyperthermia, respiratory acidosis, and metabolic acidosis. These all lead to potassium accumulation in the blood, or hyperkalemia. There is actually still a loss of potassium because intracellular potassium (where potassium should be) gets very low, at the same time... extracellular potassium is accumulating and getting toooo high. Adding more potassium to the diet of, someone on DNP, may cause even more extra cellular potassium accumulation, and lead to more acidosis. This can cause the person to be diaphoretic (rapid breathing), a symptom seen in people on high doses of dnp. Personal experience has shown me that even with low doses of DNP, adding a large amount of potassium to my diet made me very diaphoretic. Adding more and more supplemented potassium or potassium sparing diuretics such as aldactone or mannitol can cause the extracellular potassium levels to rise so high that you go into cardiac arrest.

The problem of a DNP cycle and potassium is that... there is too little potassium inside the cell, which can't be replenished, because dnp messes up the Na/K pump and any excess potassium would just be blocked to the outside the cell where it becomes dangerous. Too little potassium inside the cell makes you feel very sluggish and listless, but do not take any potassium salt or v8 juice to try to replenish this. The only thing you can do is drink lots of water and take some sodium bicarbonate. Sodium citrate would also help buffer some acid, but there's nothing you can do about low intracellular potassium levels.

I think Dianbol might help in this... but... I've never heard of a dbol + DNP cycle.. soooooo :)

I talked this over with a chemist friend of mine... thought I'd run it by the populous....

C-ditty
 
Okay... then help me understand this... two of my DNP cycles have been long term (32 and 31 days each) and at high dose (bumped to 800mg crystal... properly dosed caps... not underdosed).

Each time I had a major problem with cramping. I don't mean a little charley horse... I mean major muscle groups turning into clenched iron... and wierd cramping at that. I had my entire chest sieze... my hands would clamp shut... arms would lock. It was bad bad bad.

Is that caused by too much potasium or too little... or something else?
 
SofaGeorge said:
Okay... then help me understand this... two of my DNP cycles have been long term (32 and 31 days each) and at high dose (bumped to 800mg crystal... properly dosed caps... not underdosed).

Each time I had a major problem with cramping. I don't mean a little charley horse... I mean major muscle groups turning into clenched iron... and wierd cramping at that. I had my entire chest sieze... my hands would clamp shut... arms would lock. It was bad bad bad.

Is that caused by too much potasium or too little... or something else?

Dehydration, or too little sodium and or too little magnesium or too little potassium...

Too little potassium could result in this sort of cramping... too much (ALOT) could result in the symptoms I've listed above...

C-ditty
 
Citruscide said:

I think Dianbol might help in this... but... I've never heard of a dbol + DNP cycle.. soooooo :)

well, here's a thread that talks about the same exact topic:

DNP Acidosis

in the second post in that thread "Dr. Evil" wrote:

i just learned that dbol raises potassium levels a lot, so a dbol with 800mg/day of dnp + potassium sups would be very unwise.

take that for what it's worth....he seemed like a very smart guy while he was around....but he's been gone for quite some time and I figure he's not coming back.
 
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EngiCream said:


take that for what it's worth....he seemed like a very smart guy while he was around....but he's been gone for quite some time and I figure he's not coming back.

Yes... He is a very smart guy. :)

Very smart indeed... ;)

C-ditty
 
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Citruscide said:


Yes... He is a very smart guy. :)

Very smart indeed... ;)

C-ditty


why must you do that?

i feel totally out of the loop now....haha :p
 
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EngiCream said:



why must you do that?

i feel totally out of the loop now....haha :p

PM me, I'll tell you the entire story, in a nutshell :)

C-ditty
 
OXANDRIN said:
would taking creatine with dnp be useless?

from what I remember, yes....something about it can't be used properly or something.

that's all I remember though...I think I read it on here somewhere.

damnit...now I gotta go search and try and find the answer I'm thinking of :-P
 
The only possible reason to take gear while doing a DNP cycle is to help you maintain your muscle as you starve. On gear you may lose more fat than muscle.

Other than that I think it is a waste of gear.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Okay... then help me understand this... two of my DNP cycles have been long term (32 and 31 days each) and at high dose (bumped to 800mg crystal... properly dosed caps... not underdosed).

Each time I had a major problem with cramping. I don't mean a little charley horse... I mean major muscle groups turning into clenched iron... and wierd cramping at that. I had my entire chest sieze... my hands would clamp shut... arms would lock. It was bad bad bad.

Is that caused by too much potasium or too little... or something else?

MAGNESIUM

Taurine is also quite helpful
 
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