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the nature boy
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I guess freedom of speech doens't really exist?
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HULKSTER
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The Nature Boy said:
It still does exist.....as long as you have enough money to pay the lawyers to fight off your slander and libel lawsuits.
Y_lifter
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Yes, Likely only concerned about lost CD sales...
Country music fans may be though of as dumb hillbillies,
but thay are a passionate bunch of hillbillies when it comes to American pride..
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As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect. We are currently in Europe and witnessing a huge anti-American sentiment as a result of the perceived rush to war. While war may remain a viable option, as a mother, I just want to see every possible alternative exhausted before children and American soldiers' lives are lost. I love my country. I am a proud American.
Country music fans may be though of as dumb hillbillies,
but thay are a passionate bunch of hillbillies when it comes to American pride..
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As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect. We are currently in Europe and witnessing a huge anti-American sentiment as a result of the perceived rush to war. While war may remain a viable option, as a mother, I just want to see every possible alternative exhausted before children and American soldiers' lives are lost. I love my country. I am a proud American.
Y_lifter
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She be Getting Slammed on this Conservative forum...
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/865121/posts
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/865121/posts
the nature boy
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Y_Lifter said:
that shouldn't be too shocking.
the nature boy
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beastboy said:
no. I'm not a big fan of that style of music. However I'd like to bone 2 of the 3 dixies.
the nature boy
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Warik
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The Nature Boy said:
How has her freedom of speech been restricted?
Dougly
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UUUUMMMMM! Pudgy! I'd like to have relations of a sexual nature with that one.
I think she was just going for the 'cheap pop' in front of an anti- Bush crowd, trying to sell some t-shirts in the lobby. If the media had not picked up the story, she would have been saying how proud she was the Prez is from Texas at the their Texas shows. Busted little lady... now bend over!
I think she was just going for the 'cheap pop' in front of an anti- Bush crowd, trying to sell some t-shirts in the lobby. If the media had not picked up the story, she would have been saying how proud she was the Prez is from Texas at the their Texas shows. Busted little lady... now bend over!
the nature boy
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Warik said:
obviously not, but look at the reaction. look at what indirectly happens when someone disagrees with the president. you get blackballed or labeled a bitch, traitor, or whatever. This is a typical lynchmob mentality.
HG Pennypacker
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The Nature Boy said:
I'm blueballed, but I don't know nothing about no lynchmob. What country is he from?
Y_lifter
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My feelings don't stem from thoughts of her ability or lack of free speech.
Just that she likely feels her Opinion is more important because of her notoriety.. This makes her a bitch..
I agree with Dougly as she(her Manager) stated that they were in Europe and were seeing lots of Anti American sentiment..
T-shirts Available in the Lobby..
As for Lynchmob, is that a new SKA band ?
Just that she likely feels her Opinion is more important because of her notoriety.. This makes her a bitch..
I agree with Dougly as she(her Manager) stated that they were in Europe and were seeing lots of Anti American sentiment..
T-shirts Available in the Lobby..
As for Lynchmob, is that a new SKA band ?
the nature boy
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Y_Lifter said:
I'm not saying I agree with her stance or not. However she's allowed to say whatever she wants. But I've noticed now that the terms "anti-american" and "traitor" are starting to pop up in regards to those who are anti-war. This can be viewed as a form of censorship.... it's just that its not government sanctioned.
However if she was just saying that for crowd reaction because she was in europe and not because she really felt that way, we'll that's pretty stupid. But she is just an entertainer after all.
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Warik
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The Nature Boy said:
The reaction had nothing to do with her constitutional rights or with the influence of the federal government. With the freedom to perform an action comes the responsibility to accept the consequences.
Free speech = say whatever you want and accept the consequences.
Fascist dictatorship speech = say whatever you want and nobody can do anything about it = so much for "free" speech.
Which would you prefer?
-Warik
Lift Chief
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People need to understand that freedom of speech means sometimes people are going to say things that you don't necessarily agree with, but they still have a right to say them.
The main problem i see is that people are not pointing out that she has the right to say whatever she would like. We should be condemning the people who are calling her a traitor.
It's so absurd to think that someone who is anti-war is a traitor or in some way un-american... i guess people don't realize in a war our soldiers die.
Perhaps people that are against the war are pro-soliders... they want them to live.
The main problem i see is that people are not pointing out that she has the right to say whatever she would like. We should be condemning the people who are calling her a traitor.
It's so absurd to think that someone who is anti-war is a traitor or in some way un-american... i guess people don't realize in a war our soldiers die.
Perhaps people that are against the war are pro-soliders... they want them to live.
The Nature Boy said:
Freedom of speech is still there.
Freedom from reaping the consequences of your stupidity is not. Whether she believes that with conviction or not, she should have known it would cost her fans and CD sales. The constitution doesn't come into play there.
If she knew before hand that her beliefs would cost her money, and she said it anyway, the more power to her. But she shouldn't have apologized for saying it if that was the case.
What gets me is that I doubt she really feels that way, she was just playing to her European audience. The same way every American comedian to addresses a European audience talks about stupid Americans. The same way ever black comedian playing to a white audience talks about stupid black people. It probably has little to do with her actual convictions and more to do with trying to please her audience at the time.
Lift Chief
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Y_Lifter said:
Yeah i know- i wasn't referring to what you said... i was just talking about in general
the nature boy
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Y_Lifter said:
agreed.
Lift Chief
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Y_Lifter said:
I agree to a point.
But if she really believed in what she was saying, and wasn't doing it just to get in good with the english audience, i have no problem with her.
She got so much back lash and flack for what she said i think it's understandable that she backtracked. But she never should have had to in the first place- she has the right to voice her opinion and people need to respect that.
SofaGeorge
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Remember teh old t-shirts that said "Jane Fonda - Traitor bitch!"
jwill3:16
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This was after she said sorry....
To: rockinonritalin
What I hear. My screwup Is costing me BIG money . Please forgive me and buy my music.
3 posted on 03/14/2003 6:06 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Kelly Heros)
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I agree she hears the money train leaving her and the group.
To: rockinonritalin
What I hear. My screwup Is costing me BIG money . Please forgive me and buy my music.
3 posted on 03/14/2003 6:06 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Kelly Heros)
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I agree she hears the money train leaving her and the group.
Lift Chief said:
Where has someone not respected that? What does "respect" mean anyway?
She hasn't been thrown in jail, she hasn't been fined, she hasn't had flag placed in her citizenship file. As far as I'm concerned, her viewpoints have gotten all the respect they deserved. Do you think she deserves a medal for declaring her inner thoughts?
Lift Chief
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bigguns7 said:
Yes, i do think she deserves a medal for declaring her inner thoughts. How did you know i felt this way?
Respect means not calling someone a traiterous bitch for voicing her opinon. How's that?
People have a right to throw dixie chicks CDs out in the trash if they want to, but like i said, there is no reason for people to get that upset over someone voicing their opion- people should be informed that she is just exercising her right to free speech.
She has been vilified for this- that is not respecting her rights.
Lift Chief said:
Seems as though your position is a paradox.
You would like people to respect her freedom of speech and not call her a treacherous bitch.
But, what about the freedom of speech in calling her a treacherous bitch? Is that not a freedom to be equally respected.
In other words, she can say "I'm ashamed of George Bush," but I shouldn't say "I'm ashamed of Natalie Maines?"
Seems like your respect of free speech only extends so far. Please explain.
Silent Method
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Originally posted by Warik
How has her freedom of speech been restricted?
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She had her freedom of speech. Only when it began to mean she might not be able to afford that 7th summer home in the Virgin Islands, and that she might not make the top ten beautiful people in country music, she apologized.
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Originally posted by Warik
How has her freedom of speech been restricted?
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The reaction is nothing more than a continuation of the freedom of speech.The Nature Boy said:
She had her freedom of speech. Only when it began to mean she might not be able to afford that 7th summer home in the Virgin Islands, and that she might not make the top ten beautiful people in country music, she apologized.
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DcupSheepNipples
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What are you going to do NB split the fat one in half?
Lift Chief
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bigguns7 said:
Like i said in my previous post. I certainly think these people have a right to say what they want and have a right to throw out their dixie chicks CDs.... that's certainly well within their rights.
The fact that she was just exercising her freedom of speech needs to be emphasized to the general public and some on this board. That is my only point.
It makes me cringe to see this type of backlash over an anti-war opinion. If there was always this type of reaction to unpopular opinions people would be less likely to voice those opinions, which could indirectly infringe upon freedom of speech.
Fairness and tolerance to opinions you may not agree with should be emphasized- not name calling.
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ariolanine
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Lift Chief said:
You are way off base here. Free speech goes both ways. She was so upset at Bush that she voiced her opinion. Why can't I voice mine? You complaining about her vilification is not respecting my rights. There are consequences to your actions, and this toad needs to deal with it. After 9/11 Americans rediscovered their patriotism; you say anything even remotely unpatriotic and you will be shat upon. That is just the way it is now.
In London, you know who's launching a music career? Osama Bin Laden's niece. I guess the Dixie Chicks have an opening act now. 
(taken from Jay Leno's Monologue)
(taken from Jay Leno's Monologue)
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