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Different Types of Test!

Yellowbottle

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What would be the best type of test to use with EQ, Fina and Winny. I would be doing 12 weeks. Starting with the EQ and the Test. Frontloading of course and not looking to hold to much water. The Winny and the Fina will be added in during the sixth week. I will be using liquidex throughout the whole cycle and clomid post may bridge with Anavar. Not sure which type of test to use. I have done Sust before and loved the results. I ordered some for this cycle but have not gotten it yet and I am ready to start. Was thinking about Enathate but I here you bloat up more and it is harder to keep results. How about Cyp or Prop? Need some help quick I am running out of time. It's getting cold out!!!
 
What if I can't do the fina in the beginning . Can I start it around the same time as the winny? Is Enathate better than Cyp? Everyone keeps talking about CYP!
 
I do not have the fina yet and will not be able to get if for a few weeks. i am really looking foward to starting ASAP. I plan on front loading the Enathate at 1000mgs the first week and the EQ at 1000mgs also. Than Dropping down to 600 a piece for the remainder. I wanted to add the winny and the fina in later to harden me up. How does that sound?
 
FINA at the end??

Nimrod25 said:
For mass u cant beat enanthate, and the fina would be a nice kick start, why not use in the beginning.

Well isn't using it in the end going to help make the gains from the Test/EQ more solid?

And if you use it with sust. it allows you to have less time between clomid therapy and you last injection.

Why is enanthate better for mass? How long does it take to kick in?

M56M
 
Winny will most certainly solidify gains better that Fina, and enanthate will kick in much faster than sust considering its a single ester, especially if u frontlaod.
 
Will the Liquidex help a-lot with the water retention form Enanthate? I know that you hold a-lot less water with Sus. Last time I did Sus I did not use the Liquidex and did not hold that much water. Will the Liquidex keep my water retention really low. I am looking to put on some mass but I do not want to look really bloated.
 
So then if I take the Lquidex with the EQ and Enanthate I should be okay. Is there anyhting else I should watch out with while using Enanthate? I have heard that it is not as clean as the Sust. Sorry for all the questions but I am always about doing things the right way, and I want to know what I am doing.
 
Hmm, since you are going to be shooting ED or EOD I would take a fast acting like Prop.

Prop
Fina
Winny
EQ

Shoot those ED, with Site injections and you will get hard as a rock. Good luck.
 
Firsttime you suggest Prop over Enanthate why? When is the best time to add the fina in. Some people say begging some end let me get some opinions.
 
Nimrod thanks for the info and answering my annoying ass questions. I would like to get a few my opionions but I am leaning towards the Enanthate.
 
Nimrod25 said:
Use the liquidex u will be good. As for bacteria it depends on the manufacturer.

What do you think about Ttokoyo Sustanon 5ml bottle (250mg/cc)?

Thanks bro.

M56M
 
Yellowbottle said:
Firsttime you suggest Prop over Enanthate why? When is the best time to add the fina in. Some people say begging some end let me get some opinions.

From the drugs you described it looked like you were looking to cut. I suggested PROP, because it is a great drug to shoot ED or EOD. I also think it will hold less water than the ENT.
 
So I am in a big bind can't deceide on which test to use. I wish some others would leave some feedback. What's the best test to use if you are not looking to get to bloated!!! My options are maybe Sus, Enth, Cyp, Prop, t400. Lets get some others to leaved feedback
 
You're not gonna notice a big diff between sust, cyp, or enanthate. With prop you'd carry less water because the levels of test dont build up as high as in the other tests (cuz its shorter acting) cuz you should take it ED or EOD which means a whole lotta pokes for twelve weeks. If you run arimidex with your cycle you shouldnt have to worry about the water weight you're gaining and also make sure you drink plenty of water (makes your body hold less of it). One last thing, enan and cyp (if both are produced equally well) are almost identical. Theres 1 more molecule added to the cyp which makes it a FRACTION longer acting than enanthate (which means the enanthate is stronger).
 
Week dbol fina sust eq clomid hcg
1 8ed - 7cc 5cc - -
2 7ed - 5cc 4cc - -
3 6ed - 3cc 3cc - -
4 5ed - 3cc 3cc - -
5 4ed - 3cc 3cc - -
6 - 1cc/ED 3cc 3cc 500iu/ED
7 - 1cc/ED 3cc 3cc - -
8 - 1cc/ED 3cc 3cc - -
9 - 1cc/ED - 3cc - -
10 - 1cc/ED - - - -
11 - 1cc/ED - - - 500iu/ED
12 - 1cc/ED - - - -
13 - - - - 2ed -
14 - - - - 1ed -
15 - - - - 1ed -


heres the cycle ive just started now.
 
Basskiller should I do fina in the beginning or end of my cycle 12-14 weeks Enanthate, EQ, Fina Winny , Liquidex and Clomid. I want to frontload the EQ and Enanthate for the first week, then do the first 6-7 with just EQ and the Test and then add in the winny and fina. What do you think?
 
how much weight can I expect to gain if I frontload 1000mgs of enanthate and 1000mgs of Eq, eat right, sleep enough, and train like a beast in the first week?
 
Run the enan. Not prop.

Im running the same cycle as you.

Testoviron Depot 250- frontload 750mg then 500mg weeks 1-8
Winny weeks 4-12 50mgED
EQ Weeks 1-12 500mg/weel
Fina weeks 4-12 100mgEOD.
 
Yellowbottle said:
Basskiller should I do fina in the beginning or end of my cycle 12-14 weeks Enanthate, EQ, Fina Winny , Liquidex and Clomid. I want to frontload the EQ and Enanthate for the first week, then do the first 6-7 with just EQ and the Test and then add in the winny and fina. What do you think?

I see that you say, you have used sust before. How much per week.

week 1&2 - 750 to 1000mgs of each test and eq
week 3 thru 10 - 500mgs of each test & eq
week 6 thru 12 - 50mgs of each winny & fina ED ( not a 100 eod)
week 13 start your clomid

As for the weight gain in the first week..... It's all up to you
If you add d-bol then I could say about 10lbs the first week,
but again, it's all up to you

Make sure you have anti toxins (tyler, ALA, milk thisle ,) one or more of these! These must be taken every day for your liver.
cranberry extract (kidneys)
ginger root( for protein absorbtion )
zinc
Some sort of protein powder... there are many great ones on the market... and on this site Mass Q's triple threat, for one c

Start right now on building up your tolerance for water... You'll need to drinking around 2 to 3 gals of water a day... this can't be done over night... build up to it! Or you'll be in the bathroom half your day!

bass
 
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Thanks for the info Bass. Thats bascially what I had in mind. I did 500mgs of sust last winter for 10 weeks. Worked fucking great, not to much water weight and great strenghth. Did not use liqudiex or anything last time. I feel I have a much better grasp of what I am getting into this time. Will keep everyone posted on how the cycle is going. Starting next week. I already drink lots of water and I have all of my supps. Later!!!
 
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