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Did Arnold use juice?

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Mr.Evil

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Honest question. Personally, If I had to choose a person as my hero, I think Arnold would be it. I've read his life story, how he got started, blah blah blah.

Regardless, this dude was one skinny mofo and then 2 years later, BaBam! The fucking Terminator works his way up.

I've never read anywhere that said he was juic'n and I could care less. I personally have the genetics to get as large or larger, just dont want to dedicate every day to getting THAT big.

And I don't mind using some aftermarket products to enhance the genetics either.

So whats your opinion?

- ME
 
So you have the genetics to get as huge as Arnold without As huh? yeah right.

Yes, He did juice.

Yes he had an awesome classic physique.

No he wasnt ever really skinny, at 16 the guy had an amazing physiqu (for a 16 year old, shit for an 18 year old even). By the time Terminater hit the scene he had been swelled up for years and years.
 
hell no he didn't juice. that's how he gained so much respect. neither do bros like ronnie coleman or lee preist. come on dude get with it and do a search, or even go back a few days. this question is asked all the time.
 
Gimme a break....You know arnold did..... He was Mr Olympia from 70-75. Of course he did. He ate dianabol like M&Ms. He had heart surgery a few years back too....
 
i heard back in austria he didnt juice and wouldnt of done once he left if he had been able to get apple strudel and tight leather short pants in the USA.

due to lack of the above he took up juicing.

hang on a moment while i tighten these pants

auf wiedersehen.
 
arnold admitted "experimenting" w/ aas on a talk show
merv grif or jonny carson, i cant remember which
 
Erik's right Arnols admitted to using steroids in the 80's-

Although I doubt he used anyhing near the amount today's pro's are.

Still like Arnold's physique better than any of today's pro's!! Like Zane even better!!!
 
solidspine said:
The d-bol and heart surgery were not related:mad: :mad:
Click to expand...

Maybe, maybe not.....How do you know? They do over time cause heart problems from increasingly high BP levels. You think that is good for you? no. Come on, I like gear as much as any other bro here, but you can't keep denying the fact that after repeated high doses they are detrimental to your health....
 
SloPain: First of all, Yes, I believe I do. Ive seen all of my uncles and their dads and such. We have great genetics. However, there is a nice FAT gene in there too, so both come pretty easily.

Can I really get as big as Auuuhhhnold with out AS? Hell, I think so. The real question is: Why would I try? Do I have the dedication to a diet and training regimen that would be required to achieve that goal? Umm, No.

Me? Im a cheater. Id prefer to get as far as I could on my own and supplment for aftermarket effects. I dont even go 6 months without modifying the cars I drive. I like to have the best, the fastest, blah, blah, blah.

So I'll be juic'n to get where I want to get.

And Im working my way there. Im already down to 18.4% body fat from 24.3% just 3 weeks ago. Im holding off on the juic for a while until I feel Im ready.

But thanks for the other folks here that didnt flame me, but rather gave their opinion on the question.

- ME
 
Shit man...Arnold was the craziest juicer of all time! Five gallons or orange juice a day, 7.5 gallons of grape fruit juice and 50 gallons of prune juice just before the Olympia so he could get rid of all that shit about not using steroids.
 
first off, if you seen arnold when he was in the best shape of his life, you would realize you aren't going to look like that without juice, no way, arnold was one of the best. You must be looking at pics when he wasn't at his best. Thats ridick dude.
 
he did also admitted it open in Joe Weider's magazine (article by Rick Wayne)

The title was " They thought, if Arnold takes 3 (D-bols), they could take 9 and get big 3 times as fast".
This was in the seventies, when he was still competing, prior to his film carriere.
 
Remember, Im a novice to this. I didnt realize juic was neccassary to get like that. Im learning.

Im convinced that most of the guys running around here at the gym in North Dallas are juicn to some extent now.

Of course, the balding and huge ripped muscles do nothing to give them away.... :rolleyes:

- ME - Still the NooB
 
Okay bros, heres one for you. Arnold got the way he did with great genetics and yes juice as well. What if Arnold had access to the types of crank that are available today??? What do you think he would lool like in terms of comparisons to say yates or coleman??? Keep in mind Arnold got his physique with not even a quarter of the juice available today. The stuff wasn't even invented. D-bol and Test was about it.
 
200mg Primo a week 3,4,5,4,3 Dbols, that's what he said, when he began using Primo, it was recently available.
But he had something most of us don't have FOCUS, he had a verystrong mind
 
German beer is better than AS.
By the way what was you cycle like Mr.Evil?
 
Check out his book education of a bodybuilder, also on nurmerous talk shows he admitted to steroid use, he never went into detail, but he lie about the fact. Aronld is a class act.
 
in those days AS were legal so that everyone bought what he needed for him and his friends, they put an empty glass full of Dbols on a barbell rack so that everyone could pick what he needed
 
Arnold was awesome. You ought to read his BIO he said to his parents at the age of 12 or 13 that he was going to be the best built man in the world. He worked out since the age 13. And when He was serving in the Austrian Military(mandatory for 2 years for all male citizens) He went AWOL so that he could win the Mr. Junior Europe title. I know some people who juice alot and work out half as much. As is AS is going to miraculously make you a huge person, but arnold was determined he even developed quite a few workouts for muscle seperation and ripping. Enough said Mr. Evil, even with your superior genetics you will still need quite a bit of time a hell of a lot of determination to become a quarter of what arnold was.
 
I think that the most interesting thing about bodybuilding in Arnold's time and today is that in the early days a competitor's total bodyweight would increase before a contest (i.e. 220 and come in at 238 and much more ripped - from a long cycle of roids no doubt). If you doubt look at some of Arnolds pictures between compeitions - chest begins to look sunken etc... He didn't have the best genetics unless he was drugged.

Today everyone starts at 290 and comes down to 238. From people staying on all year and just changing drugs and dieting down.

Big change in the use and attitude of drugs over the years.
 
i had a mag that had an interview with arnold in 1975 or soemthign like that..he did do alot of d bol anadrol 50...cant think of the others he mentioned...either either way he was a beast
 
Ask and ye shall recieve.

Thanks for all the postive posts/replies to the question. Thats the kind of info I was looking for.

YellowBomber - Ive only cycled once so far, 3 years ago, and looking back, I bet it wasnt even really effective. I was probably pissing most of it away. I was injecting in my glutes every 5 days with 1 cc I think of Deca. I dont even know what kind it was. I cycled for 8 weeks and gained probably about 10 pounds or so of muscle and lost some wieght. I wasnt measuring myself or keeping up with my stats.

I was getting ready to start a cycle this upcoming Monday, but thanks to the various knowledgable members on this board, I have learned a few things.
1) Get to my peak first.
2) How to eat properly - ie... protein needed per #/bodyweight, yada yada yada.
3) The various types of roids out there. Had no clue. I had always heard Deca was the shit and best roid. Now I know much more.

I certainly wish I had access to this kind of knowledge 3 years ago. I would have had much more success than I did.

And its certainly great that the members here (for the most part) are friendly and quick to help a newbie learn whats best for them based on their goals and such.

I appreciate it.

NeverBuffEnough - Not quite sure where you thought I was talking crap as I disrespected no one unlike yourself.

Thanks everyone.
- ME
 
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