diana/anti-estrogen

[cmerise]

With dianabol, everyone has been claiming they are putting on a lot of water weight and are huge.
I have taken deca and diana(25mg/day)
with a tab of pro and nolvadex.
I guess the anti-estrogen really kicks ass as I dnt have much water retention.
anyone else tried this? I mean using anti estro throughout the cycle and did not gain massive mass as people claim?

 

[NapoleanComplex]

yeah, you are also probably splitting your dbol up throughout the day. I am taking 30mg/day (5mg six times a day), and haven't ballooned up. I think its those idiots that take 50mg/day in one dose that balloon up...that's a large spike in blood levels.

 

[cmerise]

finally some good explanation.
yeah i am splitting it throughout the day with nolv and proviron
25 mg each.

 

[The Terminator]

finally some good explanation.
yeah i am splitting it throughout the day with nolv and proviron
25 mg each.

Nolvadex and proviron will do little (if anything) to control estrogen related water retention. So at that dose you should be seeing some substantial gains....What were your results with the dbol/deca combo?

 

[DeepZenPill]

Personally I don't think nolvadex does jack shit for water retention, but maybe that's just with me. Proviron is supposed to be ok as an anti-e, but it's really not as strong as other drugs.

If you didn't bloat up with that combo I guess you're just not very sensitive to estrogen sides. Some guys bloat like hell, others don't, it just depends on the individual.

I know I need an aromatase inhibitor for almost any aromatizing compound just because I'm very sensitive to gyno. Otherwise I wouldn't give a shit about water retention.

 

[jubei]

Actually nolvadex should work for water retention, albeit not as well as liquidex. The reason being it prevents the binding of estrogen in certain receptors. Obviously preventing the formation of estrogen in the first place would result in more dramatic water reduction, nolvadex does still work towards the same goal.

 

[cmerise]

well i put around 17lbs but now stopped diana and am still using deca, did not experience much loss i guess since am still weighing the same as before after 1,5 weeks discotinuation.

Juice is the most wonderful thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Texas Ranger]

Nolvadex will help with water retention, but not as well as Arimidex. It will work for the majority, but not all the guys that use it.

 

[cmerise]

well i was more worried abt gyno than water retention.
I guess nolvadex and proviron 1 tabs each/every day is enough
to stop gyno