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RADAR
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Pretty rough start for a first cycle, Deca will kill your libido (thats where the term Deca Dick comes from) and is tough to recover from ,nandrolones like deca will linger in the body as long as 18 months.
You would be better off doing a test only cycle.
Ripp42
Banned
Out of all compounds Deca!? Um.... Imo no...
Diet
Diet
Diet
Maybe just maybe a low low test cyc. 08-10 cyc at 250-400 ah week. Imo...
Just train hard eat good.
freakshow85
New member
This is always a picky subject that I would like to learn more about. I think it depends on how bad the diabetes are for a lot of it. Are you having to take shots before every meal? Or does a pill in the morning and night keep your blood glucose levels good? I ask because you will need to feed your body. And I don't know how you react to lots of eating. I understand carbs will be a different story for you. Also, I didn't see where it was mentioned about how much training you have under your belt. Hope you aren't just wanting to jump on the AAS wagon in hopes of getting big when you have no muscle base. You won't be happy with the results. I've seen guys do AAS that had not even been working out and had little muscle base that ended up gaining what I THINK could have easily been gained naturally, and possibly within the same amount of time for someone with a good diet and more muscle to start with.
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Deca without test will not go so well. Get your diet and training into check and it may help greatly with your diabetus. If you are type 2 it is 100% lifestyle induced and can be mostly regulated with foods that improve insulin sensitivity, eating no junk or high GI carbs and by doing frequent hard weight training and high intensity cardio. After you have build a proper foundation and have continued to research gear, then consider your first cycle. Given that you have a medical condition already that can cause long term damage and even kill you, do a lot of research prior to putting a drug into your body that you clearly know little about. Your life may very well depend on it.
Yeah, I take shots every meal. On humalog and lantus. Been training for about six months. I see some good gains thus far, just want to get bigger.
Nope
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Needing that much insulin and only 6 months experience I would strongly advise holding off on the gear. You've not even built a foundation yet. Get your bodyfat down, condition your body to tolerate a higher training volume (both of which will yield benefits to your insulin sensitivity) and build a strength base, whilst you research gear. I personally think gear for anyone who doesn't have 2 years of serious continous training is silly and wasteful.
I wanting something that doesn't convert to dht.
Two years huh. Ok, I appreciate your comments.
What do you mean by eating good?
RADAR
Well-known member
oh god! did i hear that right? that makes or breaks a cycle.
Read and learn
You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.
White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.
Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.
Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.
Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.
Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.
Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.
Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.
Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.
Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran
Wheatgerm
Barley
Maize
Buckwheat
Cornmeal
Oatmeal
The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.
Pasta
Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice
Potatoes
Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads
Granary bread
Brown bread
Pitta bread
Bagel
Wholegrain cereals
High fiber breakfast cereals
Porridge oats
All bran
Wheetabix
Shredded wheat
Ryvita crispbread
Muesli
Cassava
Corn
Yam
Oatcakes
Peas
Beans
Lentils
For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples
Blackberries
Blackcurrants
Cherry
Cranberries
Grapefruit
Kiwi
Lemon
Melon
Oranges
Peach
Pear
Plum
Raspberries
Strawberries
Grapes
Raisins
----------------------------------------------------
serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball *
Example meal
Chicken breast
brown rice *
beans *
Apple
you have your grocery list above. any Questions about a certain food ..pm me
RADAR
deca will increase your appetite which is definately not a good idea for a diabetic. also it is carb dependent and your body will want lots of carbs when you are on it.. its a bulking roid for a reason.
your goal right now should be DIET as everyone here has said. how tall are you?
your goal right now should be DIET as everyone here has said. how tall are you?
5'11" my goal is to be 195 lbs of muscle.
I eat pretty much what you listed. The portion sizes are a bit larger though. I try to get 1.5 grams of protein per lb of Body weight. thanks for taking the time to help me out.oh god! did i hear that right? that makes or breaks a cycle.
Read and learn
You need at least 6-7 smaller servings per day with some protein in each., You can do this by eating clean whole foods,not processed.
Protein should come a variety of things.Seafood is one of the best sources of Protein because it's usually low in fat. Fish such as salmon is a little higher in fat but it is the heart-healthy kind: omega-3 fatty acids.
White-Meat Poultry
Stick to the white meat of poultry for excellent, lean Protein. Dark meat is higher in fat. The skin is loaded with saturated fat, so remove skin before cooking.
Milk, Cheese, and Yogurt
Not only are dairy foods -- like milk, cheese, and yogurt -- excellent sources of Protein but they also contain valuable calcium. Choose skim or low fat dairy to keep bones and teeth strong, prevent osteoporosis, and enhance weight loss.
Eggs
Eggs are one of the least expensive forms of Protein. The American Heart Association says normal healthy adults can safely enjoy an egg a day.
Beans
One-half cup of beans contains as much Protein as three ounces of broiled steak. Plus, these nutritious nuggets are loaded with fiber to keep you feeling full for hours.
Pork Tenderloin
This great and versatile white meat is 31% leaner than 20 years ago.
Soy
Twenty five grams of soy Protein daily can help lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Combine soy Protein foods like tofu with a healthy low fat diet.
Lean Beef
Lean beef has only one more gram of saturated fat than a skinless chicken breast. Lean beef is also an excellent source of zinc, iron, and vitamin b12.
Protein on the Go
Grab a meal replacement drink, cereal bar, or energy bar. Check the label to be sure the product contains at least six grams of Protein, and is low in sugar and fat.
Needtobuildmuscle has a wide variety of supplements that is an excellent source of nutrition.
Unstanding how to eat,The best way to provide the diet with complex carbohydrates is to consume foods in their most natural state such as oatmeal, bran and brown rice.
Bran
Wheatgerm
Barley
Maize
Buckwheat
Cornmeal
Oatmeal
The food list below shows good sources of complex carbohydrates.
Pasta
Macaroni
Spaghetti
Brown rice
Potatoes
Other root vegetables
Wholemeal breads
Granary bread
Brown bread
Pitta bread
Bagel
Wholegrain cereals
High fiber breakfast cereals
Porridge oats
All bran
Wheetabix
Shredded wheat
Ryvita crispbread
Muesli
Cassava
Corn
Yam
Oatcakes
Peas
Beans
Lentils
For energy you also need simple carbs thruout the day
Apples
Blackberries
Blackcurrants
Cherry
Cranberries
Grapefruit
Kiwi
Lemon
Melon
Oranges
Peach
Pear
Plum
Raspberries
Strawberries
Grapes
Raisins
----------------------------------------------------
serving size should be no larger than a tennis ball *
Example meal
Chicken breast
brown rice *
beans *
Apple
you have your grocery list above. any Questions about a certain food ..pm me
RADAR
RADAR
Well-known member
When you eat and how much plays a big role in achieving your goals.
freakshow85
New member
I think you are wanting a fast change. Well, really, WHO DOESN'T? But it takes more than a cycle or two to look like some of these guys. Steroids are not magic. And you need to be ready physically. No one is harping on you, but you probably don't like hearing the advice being given. Everyone is honest to god trying to do you a favor so you don't look back a year from now saying "damn, they were right". In 6 months, you are already looking for a shortcut. Well, friend, this life is a lifestyle. It's not a job we dread doing. It's something you do your entire life and your body will show it. Jumping on roids this early in your training will, imo, more than likely make you want to quit working out when you don't have them.
No dude. I appreciate the feedback and I am going to take the advice givin to me here. Thats why I came on here, to learn from people who knows more than me. I'll wait till I reach my natural potential before I mess with AAS. Thank you all for the advice.
RADAR
Well-known member
If you ever need more assistance you may pm me , i have over 40 yrs in this field, last yr i was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, The strange thing is i've been in super shape all my life, alot of my late aunts,cousins have it ,so it runs in the family, i guess i am fortunate to not have had it until i reached 59.I have to take a slow acting insulin once a day using an insulin pin. the good part is i'm now more sensitive to steroids and SARMS.
Are you still able to use them still?
RADAR
Well-known member
Sure am with no problems, however i shy away from peptides now because i'm not gung ho about messing with any HG spikes while on insulin.
Running SARMS right now (the first time with insulin) and this stuff is really kicking in alot more than the last previous cycles.
Now i have a script for what i take so i don't avise anyone to run get some slin to take, mainly because you may mess yourself up and have to take it the rest of your life.
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Thanks man.
Well I was curious about how that works thanks for explaining it.
wow that sucks.. did u get a glucose test because you thought you might have it? or did u catch it by accident?
RADAR
Well-known member
Steve, it caught me by suprise, the wierd part was the more i ate the more weight i lost, i even bought a second fridgerator to hold more food, i was taking in close to 5 thousand calories, I thought i had cancer or something,i still lost weight, I went to the Doc after loosing over 50 pounds, he ran a blood test and my sugar /Glocose was off the charts(over 500) normal is 80-100.
I was given sugar pills to help ,but all it did was slow it down i eventually dropped to 129 lbs,after i was put on insulin i started gaining,sometimes 2 lbs a day, right now i'm pushing 170 and still gaining.
Yeah, I was the same way. Lost a shit load of weight in the mornings when I woke up I would drink a gallon of milk straight. Insatiable thirst in the mornings. Soon as they put me on insulin I started gaining weight. The bitch part is trying to cut the excess flab around lower belly is tuff.
RADAR
Well-known member
Yeah! I couldn't go more that 10 minutes before my mouth was bone dry, I got a craving for gatotade the problem i failed to look at the contents until i told the Dr ,he said i was carbing myself to death.
I swear getting this under control is harder than trying to fine tune a race car.Whats bad is the more you drink the more you have to go to the bathroom to pee, that really got old every 15 min i had to get up an go ,sometimes i didn't almost make it!
