dextrose: how important is it

[Bruce]

bros how many of you guys use dextrose and where do you get it. how important do you think it is. thank you.

 

[Bruce]

bizzump

 

[JarheadChiro]

Read this:

http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine03/dextrose.htm

 

[starskulker]

I take 40 grams within 15 minutes of my work out and it seems to work better for me than a straight recovery drink. I use AST Sports Science "DGC" (Dextrorotory Glucose Crystals) I just toss it in with straight protien right after I leave the gym and down it in the parking lot.

 

[shamrock11]

You need it after a workout and you can get it at www.dpsnutrition.com. It is important after a workout b/c it obviously increases insulin levels very quickly. This is good after a work b/c after a hard work when your body is trying to recover it produces coristiol and this is bad for muscle. With the insulin in your system it keeps cristol level low and keeps your bosy anabolic, where you want it to be. I use 50 grams in my post work out shake.

 

[chefbone]

I use it after every workout. It's benefits are fuggin' awesome.

 

[silverbackn]

It will help with your recovery if you are eating enough the rest of the time!

 

[Makavelli]

I've been using it post workout for about 7 years. It is very important.

 

[alcibiades]

you guys are all a bunch of ectos! fuck, i stay away from sugar of all kinds like it was poison. which, in large amounts, it is btw--our bodies evolved to consume meat, fibrous vegetables, and a bit of fruit seasonally--though that fruit was very fibrous and not bred to be so sugar-rich as current fruit is. Candy bars, skittles, and certainly things like straight dextrose are not good for you in the long term. (especially if u are genetically prone to metabolic disorder, insulin resistance, etc.) and in the short term, it makes us endos into tubs of lard!

 

[Joe Stenson]

I don't use it and I don't think it's important whatsoever.

 

[Bruce]

thanks all if silver and makavelli use it i know it works because ive seen their spectacular physiques, your gonna have to say more than that joe to back up an argument

 

[Outtlaw]

I use to use it. Still have some around so I might go back to it. But after messing with slin all kinds of different ways, I dont think its that important anymore. I think you need carbs post workout along with protein, some of which should fast acting, but I think any simple sugar will do.... doesnt have to be dextrose.

 

[Bruce]

so i could just drink a coke after a workout since weight gain is not an issue

 

[Outtlaw]

so i could just drink a coke after a workout since weight gain is not an issue

I guess. So long as you get the rest of your complex carbs and protein. But coke wouldnt be my choice of things to drink post workout.

 

[Bruce]

okay i get back from the gym and i take down 55gs of protein and about 40gs of carbs. what besides some dex is a good way to get that sugar.

 

[Joe Stenson]

It really depends why you're arguing for it's use. Aside from illiciting a large insulin spike, which can be beneficial for maximum protein synthesis, it doesn't really serve any purpose. One of the main reasons proponents of its use always provide is that it "quickly restores glycogen stores". However, they never mention the relevance of this, which is really quite low. Unless you are planning on doing another workout a few hours after you just finished one, who cares? It's not like you won't be eating carb-containing meals before your next session. Your glycogen stores will get replenished eventually, timing is of little importance.

And speaking of timing issues, if you are really that concerned with this quick glycogen replenishment, remember dextrose still takes time to be digested. It's what you eat BEFORE the workout that's going to be getting put to use directly after the workout.

So, at this point it seems as though you may as well take it; it's not harming you and it might help with protein synthesis. This is where you have to remember dextrose is just SUGAR...think long term, this can't be a healthy practice.

Before I get jumped all over, let me say this: One can use dextrose if one wants, it's just not necessary, and I really disagree with people preaching that it is.

 

[Makavelli]

so i could just drink a coke after a workout since weight gain is not an issue

No. Coke has high fructose corn syrup. Fructose can be stored as glycogen in the liver or converted to triglycerides...fat! Not any sugar will do. A great product to use is Vitargo. It's a high molecular weight carb that gets into the blood faster than dextrose, causes a higher insulin spike, and has no sugar. Most of the pros use it to carb load before their shows. I used it for my precontest diet and it's great. It also doesn't bloat you like dextrose can.

 

[karachi183]

okay i get back from the gym and i take down 55gs of protein and about 40gs of carbs. what besides some dex is a good way to get that sugar.

Bannana's

 

[Prizz]

I use to use it. Still have some around so I might go back to it. But after messing with slin all kinds of different ways, I dont think its that important anymore. I think you need carbs post workout along with protein, some of which should fast acting, but I think any simple sugar will do.... doesnt have to be dextrose.

I agree.... As long as you get your insulin lvls up.....

rizz

 

[Themachine01]

It really depends why you're arguing for it's use. Aside from illiciting a large insulin spike, which can be beneficial for maximum protein synthesis, it doesn't really serve any purpose. One of the main reasons proponents of its use always provide is that it "quickly restores glycogen stores". However, they never mention the relevance of this, which is really quite low. Unless you are planning on doing another workout a few hours after you just finished one, who cares? It's not like you won't be eating carb-containing meals before your next session. Your glycogen stores will get replenished eventually, timing is of little importance.

And speaking of timing issues, if you are really that concerned with this quick glycogen replenishment, remember dextrose still takes time to be digested. It's what you eat BEFORE the workout that's going to be getting put to use directly after the workout.

So, at this point it seems as though you may as well take it; it's not harming you and it might help with protein synthesis. This is where you have to remember dextrose is just SUGAR...think long term, this can't be a healthy practice.

Before I get jumped all over, let me say this: One can use dextrose if one wants, it's just not necessary, and I really disagree with people preaching that it is.

My thoughts exactly. Like Joe stated, it seems like everyone is worried about the timing aspect of the glycogen replenishment, yet everyone seems to forget about the fact that your body still has to digest the simple carbs that you are consuming post training. I switched over to using gatorade powder throughout my workout, the powder form uses dextrose as it sugar, and then I use just isolate post training.

 

[Outtlaw]

I would use things like dextrose and vitargo only when I was using slin. I would take my protein shake immediately post workout, then when I got home start drinking a glass of coolaid (which I'd mix the dextrose in). Then I'd fix my post workout meal which consisted of protein and complex carbs. But without the slin I just use whatever. Regular sugar coolaid does just fine for me. I wouldnt worry about the other stuff so much unless you're supplementing with slin.

 

[Outtlaw]

It really depends why you're arguing for it's use. Aside from illiciting a large insulin spike, which can be beneficial for maximum protein synthesis, it doesn't really serve any purpose. One of the main reasons proponents of its use always provide is that it "quickly restores glycogen stores". However, they never mention the relevance of this, which is really quite low. Unless you are planning on doing another workout a few hours after you just finished one, who cares? It's not like you won't be eating carb-containing meals before your next session. Your glycogen stores will get replenished eventually, timing is of little importance.

And speaking of timing issues, if you are really that concerned with this quick glycogen replenishment, remember dextrose still takes time to be digested. It's what you eat BEFORE the workout that's going to be getting put to use directly after the workout.

So, at this point it seems as though you may as well take it; it's not harming you and it might help with protein synthesis. This is where you have to remember dextrose is just SUGAR...think long term, this can't be a healthy practice.

Before I get jumped all over, let me say this: One can use dextrose if one wants, it's just not necessary, and I really disagree with people preaching that it is.

Wow, I think I might actually agree with Stenson for the 1st time.

 

[Joe Stenson]

Wow, I think I might actually agree with Stenson for the 1st time.

Had to happen sometime.

 

[Extra_Strong]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutrex/vitargo.html

works for me..

 

[mendo]

It really depends why you're arguing for it's use. Aside from illiciting a large insulin spike, which can be beneficial for maximum protein synthesis, it doesn't really serve any purpose. One of the main reasons proponents of its use always provide is that it "quickly restores glycogen stores". However, they never mention the relevance of this, which is really quite low. Unless you are planning on doing another workout a few hours after you just finished one, who cares? It's not like you won't be eating carb-containing meals before your next session. Your glycogen stores will get replenished eventually, timing is of little importance.

And speaking of timing issues, if you are really that concerned with this quick glycogen replenishment, remember dextrose still takes time to be digested. It's what you eat BEFORE the workout that's going to be getting put to use directly after the workout.

So, at this point it seems as though you may as well take it; it's not harming you and it might help with protein synthesis. This is where you have to remember dextrose is just SUGAR...think long term, this can't be a healthy practice.

Before I get jumped all over, let me say this: One can use dextrose if one wants, it's just not necessary, and I really disagree with people preaching that it is.

I agree with this to some extent. What I do is make a large dextrose/maltodextrin/whey isolate shake PRE WORKOUT. By large I mean 60g protein and 60-70 carbs. I then drink a little before, and keep drinking a little between sets, by the time my workout is finished its about 2/3 gone and I down it. My workouts and recovery have never been better since I started doing it this way.