Destined for HRT

[exlax]

Hey guys,
I started juicin in may 04. had a couple years of natty training under my belt so felt I was ready. In retrospect I pronahly could have waited and made prety decent gains naturally. Admittedly I jmped the gun, but hey you live and you learn.

Anyways, the past 2+ years plus an additional year when I was 16, nodybuilding has been my life. It's my passion, it's my niche, it's what keeps me going.

I've been doing A LOT of research lately on androgen receptors, LH, HPTA, etc. and i've come to the conclusion that I would like to start HRT. I plan on running cycles with "off times" which would be merely HRT doses. I'm going to continue to get blood work done periodically and make sure kidneys, liver, etc. are in check, but I'm just plain tired of this rollercoaster ride.

Now I know many of you guys probably want to rip my head apart. but in a civilized matter can you tell me what are the implications, if any, in doing something like this? If I stick to mostly highly anabolic steroids, will this at least give me the chance to recover down the line? From the medical and scientific journals I have read, my conclusion is yes. What are your guys thoughts/comments on this?

I think I may have done some permenant damage regarding my test production, but I wanted to see some comments on that. Even if you guys think I didn't, I am still going to consider my HRT option.

Here's a link to my timeline of working out since I started 2 years ago.

http://photos.yahoo.com/veryleakybutt

And here are cycle stats.

Currently I'm 21
6'ish at 200ish+lbs 10ish BF


I've done 4 cycles. Starting weight last may (2004) was 185

8 weeks sust/deca 500/300mg pw - Gained 30 lbs with this course (with plenty of fat of course, ate wayyy to much)

8 weeks test eth 500mg pw - Gained 15-20lbs (did a little better with keeping fat in check)

5.5 weeks prop/tren 100/75mg EOD - Lost about 10lbs of fat and gained about 5 or so in muscle

and my last one - Lost 15lbs and made incredible strength gains up until I dropped the tren
1-13 test prop 100mg EOD
1-8 tren 100mg EOD
9-13 winny 50mg ED

 

[vitamix]

This is a very sad post. No offense but hearing everything you have done at your age makes me sick to my stomach. You have wasted the good years of natural test production. Please do me a favor and see an Endo and perhaps there is a chance you can bounce back and enjoy a few years of "youth". Furthermore, your post reads like a child who lost their virginity at 8 years old and then at the age of 14 you to know if its ok to keep screwing.

Please dont take this the wrong way, I wish you the best of luck and would like to see some follow up posts from you on your progress regardless of the decision you make.

 

[nsashbl01]

This is a very sad post. No offense but hearing everything you have done at your age makes me sick to my stomach. You have wasted the good years of natural test production. Please do me a favor and see an Endo and perhaps there is a chance you can bounce back and enjoy a few years of "youth". Furthermore, your post reads like a child who lost their virginity at 8 years old and then at the age of 14 you to know if its ok to keep screwing.

Please dont take this the wrong way, I wish you the best of luck and would like to see some follow up posts from you on your progress regardless of the decision you make.

Bro, you need to rethink your life. You know you made a mistake about jumping the gun. Shit bro, by those pics, you had no clue about your diet. If so, you could have made way more gains without risking your health. Take it from someone on HRT. It's nice if your bodys fucked, but nothing I'd ever want to do just to stay muscular. Were talking lots of expensive blood work, doc visits, and know one is sure of the possible risks 20 -30 years from now. I had few choices. My test was always in the gutter, (total 140ng/dl) from head injuries when I was younger. But let me tell you, I feel that I am WAY to young for all this shit, at 36!

I don't want to lecture ya or sound like a prick. I really think you need to rethink all this. PM me if you want to talk off the boards.

Good luck...

 

[borg4902]

The pics speak for themseves.

 

[sparetire]

hell, the name "veryleakybutt" speaks for itself.

 

[Dial_tone]

You hardly look like you even workout, much less have done 4 cycles. I'm won't repeat whats already been said but I agree with it.

 

[r1]

HRT is lifelong commitment, bro. It should be used as a last resort after all attempts to recover your HPTA have failed. I'm in the process of trying to give my HPTA a 2nd chance. Given your age, I highly suggest that you do the same.

I "jumped the gun" on HRT because I thought about "what it could do for me" and I sure wish that I had made more of an effort to fix my system before trying to replace it. Daily injections and constant fights with the insurance company took the "cool" factor out pretty quickly. I'll be much happier if I can pocket that $60/month and not have to rely on 2 injectables to keep my system happy. For some, it's not possible. They HAVE to be on HRT and have come to that conclusion after extensive recovery attempts have failed. I never made those attempts, so I am making them now. Many AAS users are in the same boat.

Sonny

 

[AAP]

hell, the name "veryleakybutt" speaks for itself.

You got that right.

 

[bigdho]

HRT is lifelong commitment, bro. It should be used as a last resort after all attempts to recover your HPTA have failed. I'm in the process of trying to give my HPTA a 2nd chance. Given your age, I highly suggest that you do the same.

I "jumped the gun" on HRT because I thought about "what it could do for me" and I sure wish that I had made more of an effort to fix my system before trying to replace it. Daily injections and constant fights with the insurance company took the "cool" factor out pretty quickly. I'll be much happier if I can pocket that $60/month and not have to rely on 2 injectables to keep my system happy. For some, it's not possible. They HAVE to be on HRT and have come to that conclusion after extensive recovery attempts have failed. I never made those attempts, so I am making them now. Many AAS users are in the same boat.

Sonny

AGREED

 

[exlax]

You hardly look like you even workout, much less have done 4 cycles. I'm won't repeat whats already been said but I agree with it.

Maybe if you didn't surround yourself with people that were on permanently on and doing HRT (just like i'm asking about), it'd look a little more like I work out to you. If you can't see the difference in the pictures I suggest you get glasses. How many 5'11 200lb guys with 17 inch arms, at my bodyfat, etc. etc. that don't work out? They must be the next fuckin ronnie colemans then...

In addition, this thread was not started to get comments and criticisms on my pics, I was asking about HRT, where I'm in my bodybuilding "career" so to speak is irrelevant to what I am asking.