Delt soreness - first post.

[Mr. Clean02]

Hello all,

So after about 8 years of hard training, and meticulous dieting I finally decided to do my first cycle. I am 36, 6 ft tall, 210 lbs, 11.6 % bf. I have done countless hours of research, and decided on a 12 week cycle of test prop, eq, and winny tabs.

As follows;

Week 1-12 test prop 300 mg/week

Week 1-12 equinex 500 mg/week

Week 1-12 winny tabs - 20 mg/day

I also have arimidex on hand, but my source (who I train with) said to see how I'm feeling at week 3 and decide on dex protocol.

I'm gonna be pinning Monday, Wednesday and Friday, throwing the eq in Monday and Friday. So my pinning schedule is as follows;

Monday - 100mg test p, 250 mg eq. (1 ml each)

Wednesday - 100 mg test p

Friday - 100 mg test p, 250 mg eq.

So I've read all the threads on pinning and thought I did a textbook inject on my right delt yesterday. It moved a little bit when I drew back to check for blood. But overnight and today it's sore as hell.

Any thoughts on what I maybe did wrong, where I should pin to avoid this pain, or the cycle in general would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading, I'm grateful to have access to so many knowledgeable people here.

 

[stevesmi]

prop will cause soreness. probably not the best choice for a needle newb. swap in some cyp instead

 

[phattony]

The soreness not a lot you can do about it until your muscles get used to the prop. Reason you get the sorenws is called crash. You stick yourself and you may fet some burn from the alcohol. Then either later that day or next you get pip. When the oil used to suspened it is absorbed by your body what Is left is the crystals of the test causing the soreness. Til it gets used to the crystals putting pressure in muscle fibers it will be sore. Took me almost four weeks to get used to prop first time. Then I was good and next time around I got slight soreness but that was it.
So try heating pad and just work through it.

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[phattony]

Also don't roll it out with foam roller will just casues damage to msucles and probably scare tissue

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[dylangemelli]

Hello all,

So after about 8 years of hard training, and meticulous dieting I finally decided to do my first cycle. I am 36, 6 ft tall, 210 lbs, 11.6 % bf. I have done countless hours of research, and decided on a 12 week cycle of test prop, eq, and winny tabs.

As follows;

Week 1-12 test prop 300 mg/week

Week 1-12 equinex 500 mg/week

Week 1-12 winny tabs - 20 mg/day

I also have arimidex on hand, but my source (who I train with) said to see how I'm feeling at week 3 and decide on dex protocol.

I'm gonna be pinning Monday, Wednesday and Friday, throwing the eq in Monday and Friday. So my pinning schedule is as follows;

Monday - 100mg test p, 250 mg eq. (1 ml each)

Wednesday - 100 mg test p

Friday - 100 mg test p, 250 mg eq.

So I've read all the threads on pinning and thought I did a textbook inject on my right delt yesterday. It moved a little bit when I drew back to check for blood. But overnight and today it's sore as hell.

Any thoughts on what I maybe did wrong, where I should pin to avoid this pain, or the cycle in general would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading, I'm grateful to have access to so many knowledgeable people here.

Im really surprised noone has commented on your winstrol layout but that needs to change ASAP... You have no business attempting to run winstrol, or ANY OTHER ORAL for 12 weeks... Your dosage is far too low and your length is far too long... 8 weeks should be the MAX you attempt to run it... I would run it at 50 mg day... You need supports with it... You do realize how toxic winstrol is right? You need to be running n2guard alongside of it... You are going to cause severe internal damage without supports... I would extend your eq to 16 weeks... It does not even get going until week 9... Your arimidex dosage is .5 mg eod... I would also be running HcGenerate ES on cycle... What is your pct looking like??

 

[Mr. Clean02]

Im really surprised noone has commented on your winstrol layout but that needs to change ASAP... You have no business attempting to run winstrol, or ANY OTHER ORAL for 12 weeks... Your dosage is far too low and your length is far too long... 8 weeks should be the MAX you attempt to run it... I would run it at 50 mg day... You need supports with it... You do realize how toxic winstrol is right? You need to be running n2guard alongside of it... You are going to cause severe internal damage without supports... I would extend your eq to 16 weeks... It does not even get going until week 9... Your arimidex dosage is .5 mg eod... I would also be running HcGenerate ES on cycle... What is your pct looking like??

Thanks for the helpful input. I too thought the winstrol was outta wack. Gonna go to 50 mg Ed for weeks 1-8. So much conflicting info about cycle support and pct. Is there a cycle support available OTC or online? I also have access to hcg, clomid and novaldex for pct.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the helpful input. I too thought the winstrol was outta wack. Gonna go to 50 mg Ed for weeks 1-8. So much conflicting info about cycle support and pct. Is there a cycle support available OTC or online? I also have access to hcg, clomid and novaldex for pct.

You need n2guard... Its at needtobuildmuscle.com... run this along side winstrol to fully protect yourself...

I would highly recommend hcgenerate ES ran 4-8 weeks during your cycle towards the end to keep suppression to a minimum and to transition into pct smoothly...

here's a good pct for you...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo ntbm.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…

 

[Mr. Clean02]

You need n2guard... Its at needtobuildmuscle.com... run this along side winstrol to fully protect yourself...

I would highly recommend hcgenerate ES ran 4-8 weeks during your cycle towards the end to keep suppression to a minimum and to transition into pct smoothly...

here's a good pct for you...

clomid 50/50/25/25 AG-guys.com
unleahsed/post cycle combo ntbm.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

Phytoserms and HCGenerate
can be used in place of the Unleashed/post cycle combo if they are out of stock

USE COUPON CODE DYLAN10 AT NEEDTOBUILDMUSCLE.COM FOR 10% OFF…

Wow man, super cool of you to take the time to write that all out. I can get that shipped to Canada and the cops don't care about that stuff?

Again, thank you so much for sharing your expertise and patience.

 

[dylangemelli]

Wow man, super cool of you to take the time to write that all out. I can get that shipped to Canada and the cops don't care about that stuff?

Again, thank you so much for sharing your expertise and patience.

im happy to help bro... yes, it can be shipped there bro... all the websites are listed next to the products for you...