Decca & Winny - Best first Cycle ?

[Dugg33]

Doing a little research here and grabbed part of a thread from a feww years ago. Wondered if anyone agreed with the following Quotes .........

""People run deca for 12-14 wks and wonder why they have deca dick? Same thing would happen with tren. With NPP, run it for 6 wks, it starts acting fast so gains come quicker, and you dont have to wait and run it long to really reap the benefits. You can also discontinue it if sides get bad. Second ... run it with HCG once a week. This is what i believe is one of the biggest reasons people complain of being shut down, because nandrolone has a direct effect on LH.

3rd. Your choice of drugs you run it with can help. Run it with something like tren and you are looking for trouble. Run it with winny, and you will be loving life.

4th Supps. Take the appropriate supps while running it to help with prog and prolactin. Dostinex is great, then you have SAM-e and TMG.

If you have your shit together you will reap the full benefits of nandrolone. If you dont know what the fuck you are doing and run it like many do at 600mg/wk for 14 wks for example, you are asking for trouble. ""

 

[brohim]

I agree that long cycles of Deca have some serious recovery issues, but I do not believe that Deca should be used for a first cycle. 250 - 500 mg Test per week for 10-12 weeks would provide a great stimulus for someone who has already reached their genetic potential, without the shutdown that Deca seems to give most people. On a personal note, I get no testicular shrinkage on up to 500 mg TesT Cyp per week, but have raisins in my sack on as little as 300 mg Deca per week. For me, Deca seems make recovery very difficult.

 

[bmcadoo44]

My first cycle was Deca/Winstrol.
Deca 250mg Week 1-5
Winstrol 50mg e/d Week 4-7
Clomid/Nolva

It was a very short cycle but i didnt want it to be so obvious even though it was, and for your first cycle you dont need that much. But in my case iv been workin out all my life and was in good shape to start. I started this cycle at age 20. This was a great first cycle tho i would have thrown in some test. But my libido and everything came back great. I was playing college ball at the time and didnt get to go out much so it wasnt that bad. I had no problems with gyno but i did feal bloated from the deca and got some acne. The Winstrol helped with everything by ripping me up after the deca. Run some glucosamine and milk thistle with it. I hate like an animal and also healthy. I was so determined at the time and it was the perfect time for me to start i think. I kept every bit of strength, and gained strength naturaly after the cycle.

Bench +50lbs
Squat +60lbs
Powerclean +30
Forty time: drop .3

At the time i was training alot and it was all i was doing, i would never stop. I was solid shape as my upper body just got huge as i kept a six pack. And my legs got incredibly stronger. I could mow down players in games.

I would recomend this:
Your choice if u want to run test.
Deca 250mg week 1-8
Winstrol 50mg e/d week 5-10
PCT Clomid, Nolva, HCG

I am 21 right now as u can see i did this cycle last year. My next cycle i am going to be doing is consisting of more quality lean gains. Such as anavar, tbol or eq and maybe primo. But im pretty set on the var right now but im not sure what to stack it with.