Deca

[pjerpan]

It seems to me that Deca like no other things divides people in two groups - Those who love it, and those who hate it.
Everyone seems to have their own personal opinion regarding Deca.
Some people say it´s the ultimate steroid with hardly any side effects, great strength and size gains with good keeps, deca actually "lubricates" your joints, and that the only really down side is that deca is stays in your system for so long (up to 18 months).

Others say that deca is the worst steroid ever. You bloat, get impotent, don´t recover for several months.... and so on.

Now all my experience with deca (organon) has been positive. The only downside was some water retention - NOTHING else.

Now I just would like to here what people here thinks about deca. Sorry but the long post...

 

[pjerpan]

why?

 

[JP@Ironology]

Oh no, here we go again!

 

[Zoomster]

I like it.

 

[Johnny Cut]

deca opinions,......asked before

.but since here we go again, i hate it

 

[Trapper]

I've never had a problem with it. Works for me. Don't get any bloat from it.

 

[mikelong23]

I used it once before, never had any problems. That and some D-bol, I got up to 227 in about 7 weeks

 

[crsnavet]

My first cycle was deca and winny. I gained about 15lbs, which was a LOT of water. Probably my fault I didn't gain more because of diet.
Didn't use Nolva, got gyno from it and was limper than a 80yr. old man with no Viagra.

My conclusion, Deca is ok with Anti e's, arimidex and cycled with test to help the little soldier.

 

[Canuck4]

Deca is great if you dont care about some of its sides.
I got great results on it but its been 6 weeks off it and still pretty much shut down
And when I say shut down I mean tottaly shut off.

 

[JP@Ironology]

Deca is great if you dont care about some of its sides.
I got great results on it but its been 6 weeks off it and still pretty much shut down
And when I say shut down I mean tottaly shut off.

Damn, that sucks bro. How high were you running the Deca at?

 

[rickw]

DECA=GOOD GAINS. I like it but not on its own

 

[pittbull2]

Deca is great if you dont care about some of its sides.
I got great results on it but its been 6 weeks off it and still pretty much shut down
And when I say shut down I mean tottaly shut off.

I know the feeling bro ,i've been there I'm undecided on Deca love it and Hate it ...

 

[tombphilips]

Has anyone had gyno or impotence with Deca and Bromo/Caborgoline?
If prolactin control opens the door to Deca glory while preventing gyno, impotence, and super HPTA shutdown it sounds like the perfect steroid to me.

 

[Canuck4]

Not too high.
Just 400mg per week for 10 weeks, along with 500mg Test.
Let me tell you, gains where great and everything but I want my Penis back
Its been 2 months and still no word, I dont deserve it

I started 50mg of proviron ED to see if it improves anything.

Damn, that sucks bro. How high were you running the Deca at?

 

[biteme]

Deca is great if you dont care about some of its sides.
I got great results on it but its been 6 weeks off it and still pretty much shut down
And when I say shut down I mean tottaly shut off.

I just started adding it in with my test about 3 weeks ago. My nuts have shrunk even more and my sex drive is lower. I thought if you mixed test with it, the deca wouldn't do that? I'm not sure my stuff is not fake and that may be the reason for my problems.

 

[Johnny Cut]

u try cialis?...if not u should, i swear to god felt like i was superman....wall maybe not superman, but i was "the man of steel"

 

[Canuck4]

Yep, I extended my clomid for 5 weeks total.
Also started taking a shitload of Tribulus and DHEA.
Lets see.
Freaking cialis didnt do shit.
I dont think it works for me.

dude proviron helped alot also tribulus.

start clomid again

 

[biteme]

Not too high.
Just 400mg per week for 10 weeks, along with 500mg Test.
Let me tell you, gains where great and everything but I want my Penis back
Its been 2 months and still no word, I dont deserve it

I started 50mg of proviron ED to see if it improves anything.

Did it do this to you while you were on the test. or when you stopped the cycle?

 

[Canuck4]

About 2-3 weeks after my last Deca/Test shot.
When I was on the Test it was fine

Did it do this to you while you were on the test. or when you stopped the cycle?

 

[biteme]

If deca messes your sex drive up even when on test. than I'm getting off of it. I'm too old to have a shitty sex drive. I always heard that it wouldn't matter as long as you were taking test. I'll probably never come off the test, so I'm not worried about getting shut down post cycle.

 

[Canuck4]

You should be fine then.
It usually does it to me post cycle only but this time it shut me down longer than usual.

If deca messes your sex drive up even when on test. than I'm getting off of it. I'm too old to have a shitty sex drive. I always heard that it wouldn't matter as long as you were taking test. I'll probably never come off the test, so I'm not worried about getting shut down post cycle.

 

[DEEZEL]

took 8 shots of 200mg deca last summer. Didn't do any test. I loved the results, gained almost 20lbs but my dick wouldn't do shit a week after my last shot. That lasted for about 3 months. Scared the shit out of me. I thought I would never get it up again! Then finally I started getting my mojo back.

And now you guys are scaring me again! I am about to start up on 250mg sus a week and I was going to do 300mg deca with it. Now I don't know. Please post more about this!!!

 

[diet4ever]

Everybody reacts different on Deca.

I'm about to finish my clomid post cycle. I did 10 weeks deca 400MG + sust 500MG, 10-20MG Nolvadex ED, with 3.5 weeks d'bol.

I tampered down deca in week 10 to 200MG. After my last deca shot I took 2 additional sust 250MG shot. So my cycle was total 12 weeks. 2 days after my last sust shot I started hcg 500iu ED for 12 days. I know many of you think tampering is old school, but for me it works great. I'm the old fashioned guy.

Results: I gained 18lbs, and so far lost only 2 lbs. Strength went way up: bench + 50 lbs, squats + 180 lbs (No this is NOT a typing error), I didn't lost any strength yet, it only takes me a little longer to recover.

Didn't have any problems with my sex drive. Every day I'm about as horny as a human can be.

Stats 6'3", 220lbs, bf don't know but still a little too high.

My next cycle will definitely include deca and sust again. I think I will drop the d'boll and swap it for some oral winnie.

 

[Zoomster]

I guess I have been lucky so far. I am doing 400 mgs a week.
No sex drive problems, still having it everyday, actually my sex drive has increased.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

My next cycle, which will be well into the summer, will have Deca in it. I'll be going through several months of HEAVY Prednisone therapy right away for Kidney failure... so my body will need something considerable to compensate for what I'm about to have robbed from me.

I'm going to run a 16 week cycle: 8 weeks of Sus(350mg/EW)and Deca(400mg/EW). Plus another 8 weeks of Tren(75mg/ED)and Winstrol(50mg/ED). Followed by the 'boiler-room' post cycle regimen of HCG/Nolva/Clomid.

I've used Deca before and found it to be NASTY to come off of. I look and feel like shit for months afterwards. However, I've found that if you don't finish the cycle with Deca, but rather a fast acting AAS like Prop and Winstrol, AND follow up the cycle with ancilliaries... you can return your HTPA to normal levels quickly. It makes Deca worth while if you use it properly.

 

[JP@Ironology]

Everybody reacts different on Deca.

I'm about to finish my clomid post cycle. I did 10 weeks deca 400MG + sust 500MG, 10-20MG Nolvadex ED, with 3.5 weeks d'bol.

I tampered down deca in week 10 to 200MG. After my last deca shot I took 2 additional sust 250MG shot. So my cycle was total 12 weeks. 2 days after my last sust shot I started hcg 500iu ED for 12 days. I know many of you think tampering is old school, but for me it works great. I'm the old fashioned guy.

Results: I gained 18lbs, and so far lost only 2 lbs. Strength went way up: bench + 50 lbs, squats + 180 lbs (No this is NOT a typing error), I didn't lost any strength yet, it only takes me a little longer to recover.

Didn't have any problems with my sex drive. Every day I'm about as horny as a human can be.


Stats 6'3", 220lbs, bf don't know but still a little too high.

My next cycle will definitely include deca and sust again. I think I will drop the d'boll and swap it for some oral winnie.

Sounds good bro.

 

[tombphilips]

Below is a quote from a previous post on EF. It is not mine, but it has helped form my opinion on bromo and deca. I am aware that this is one person's experience, but it seems quite possible to me that the problems associated with Deca are a result of prolactin not Deca’s inherent progesterone-like (progestin) status. If prolactin is the problem then Dopamine agonists are the solution, and for the small amount of dose a bodybuilder would be using side-effects should be minor (Parkinson patients sometime use 15mg /day+). Bromo is not just for gyno. Prolactin can effect test production and sexual function. Bromo can remove much of the prolactin from the equation and for sexual function dopamine in the brain MAY be a plus as well.

“I've taken it at 600 mg.\week several times without test and stacked with 50 mg. of winstrol\day every one of those times. Good gains and virtually no side effects like the dreaded decrease in libido and testicular size, as well as concurrent drop in endo test, better known as deca dick.

Well, this cycle that I'm running mow, I chose to run a little differently. And it finally came back to bite me in the ass! I usually like the combo of winny and deca and start a lot of cycles with the two, then switch over to more androgenic androgens such as test stacked with D-bol, followed by some test and tren.

I do beleive that winny has very mild ant-progestenic effects, but on this particular cycle the anti-progestenic effects of 50 mg\day, were not able to inhibit the supraphysiological levels of prolactin that went up as a result of a large doubled up frontload of approximately 1,500mg. of a mix of nandrolone decanoate and phenylprop in week one, followed by 6-700 mg week of nandrolone decanoate from week 2 to the present end of week 4.

Within just days of my first shot, (tok three frontload shots during the first 4 days), my libido had totally crashed and I had no sexual desire, although physically I felt quite good and gains in lean mass and strength started ot become noticeable during week 2, since I had reached approximately peak levels of nandrolone in the system by the end of week one.

But this drop in sex desire had me pissed and my girlfriend off even moreso, so I got some bromocriptine. Started out at .625 mg\day and worked my way up to 2.5 mg\day over a week's time. Starting at too high a dose from day one, even 1.25 mg, can make a lot of people feel nauseous, me included. Within 2-3 days of my first dose, I was up to 1.25 mg\day and Bam! My sex dive was back and not only did I feel jacked in the gym, but in the sack as well. This dopamine agonst knocks out up to 70% of circulating prolactin levels, depenmding on which studies I've read and now I'm a fucking beleiver.”

 

[DEEZEL]

bromocriptine

Where do u get it? Legal / Illegal??