Deca/winny and test cycle...or...

[MrRTTB]

What would you pick with these goals:
Put on 10-12lb solid pounds. Also looking for nice strength gains

Alt 1: Deca 400mg 10 weeks, winny 50mg ED 7 weeks, 250 test every 10 days. 0.25mg arimidex ED for wather from the test and to help holding estrogen fat away while bulking.

Alt 2: Short cycle of 4 weeks. Tren 150mg EOD, Test Prop 200mg EOD, winny 50mg ED, arimidex 0.5mg ED. I just can't afford a longer cycle than this if I would pick thisone.

I will eat about 2-2.5lb protein per Lb BW. If I pick the Deca cycle I will start cutting week 1-5 and then bulk up and try to put on a good 2-3lb per week for the last 5weeks.

 

[Swoleyoley]

im getting good gains of a deca/test/wiini cycle right now

 

[buffut1]

If this is your first cycle, I say the 400mg Deca a week and the test. I personally don't think you need the Winny. You should put on 10-12 pounds easily, depending on your diet and training or course.

also with that low dose of test, the arimidex shouldn't be necessary. It may not hurt to have some on hand, just in case some gyno shows up.

Don't forget the clomid!

 

[MadCow1]

I agree with the above - why winstrol?

Also is this your first cycle (I am assuming it is for below)?

Anyway, regarding the 2nd cycle, why can you only run it for 4 weeks. I don't see where the expense is. You should make your own tren. I'd lower the prop to 100mg EOD and run the fina at 75mg EOD or 37.5mg ED. Forget the winstrol. You'll get everything you need out of this. If the prop is the expensive part just run a long ester at 200-300mg weekly. I'd take this cycle over the first if you concern is "not looking bloated but adding weight and being cut (maybe this is why the winstrol?)". This would be a heck of a cycle, keep you looking good and adding size/strength.

 

[frorider6]

im getting good gains of a deca/test/wiini cycle right now

What's your cycle look like? I'm looking to run 300mg deca per week, 400-500 test per week, and 50 mg winny depot EOD but I don't know when to start each substance and when to stop each one for maximum efficiency and gains.

 

[MrRTTB]

No, this is not my first cycle, I've never done deca before. The reson why I can't do more than 4 weeks is because I do not live in the us and as the situation is right now I can only get stuff to a short 4 week cycle. Anyway, I think I will pick the deca cycle. It will probably allow me to put on the BW I'm looking for and to hold fat away. I'm going to change my diet and eat more protein than ever, well this is when the Deca kick in. About 2.3-2.5g per LB BW.

 

[waterboy]

What's your cycle look like? I'm looking to run 300mg deca per week, 400-500 test per week, and 50 mg winny depot EOD but I don't know when to start each substance and when to stop each one for maximum efficiency and gains.

Run deca and test week 1-10 start winny week 8 -13 week 14-16 clomid

 

[frorider6]

Run deca and test week 1-10 start winny week 8 -13 week 14-16 clomid

I want the winny to control the deca progrsterone sides (in theory). Could I start the winny at and run it week 2-13?