deca/tren cycle

[Phaded]

thinking deca at 400 mg every week
tren 75 mg eod for 10 weeks
followed by nolva and clomid anyone think this is a bad or good idea.. i've also read much about deca dick wondering if there is anything out there besides just test than can alter this thanks

 

[Outtlaw]

I'd say.... not so great of an idea.

 

[jerkbox]

acckk!!

 

[Guinness5.0]

You've got a lot to learn. I challenge you to find out why what you've proposed is horrendous. Not trying to be a dick, but don't mess with AAS yet.

 

[Phaded]

i dont mind not being able to get hard ever again as well as the crash..

 

[Outtlaw]

i dont mind not being able to get hard ever again as well as the crash..

That has nothing to do with why I dont like your cycle.

 

[LVTitan]

That has nothing to do with why I dont like your cycle.

from what i can see, u dont know a whole lot about each product and what it mixes with, or what ancillaries should be taken ... tren and deca are both nandrolone derived gear (correct guys, at least i always thought so), so i dont see why you'd mix them , do one or the other, and learn what prolactin/progestin? levels are and why you would need dostinex with that cycle.
and the "crash" should be something you care about. you want to get back to a normal state of balance as soon as possible. it's not nice to fool mother nature.

 

[Outtlaw]

from what i can see, u dont know a whole lot about each product and what it mixes with, or what ancillaries should be taken ... tren and deca are both nandrolone derived gear (correct guys, at least i always thought so), so i dont see why you'd mix them , do one or the other, and learn what prolactin/progestin? levels are and why you would need dostinex with that cycle.
and the "crash" should be something you care about. you want to get back to a normal state of balance as soon as possible. it's not nice to fool mother nature.

Are you replying to me or the guy that doesnt care if he crashes or not?? Cause I know exactly what each product does. Its his body, if he wants to have it shut down and crash then that's on him.

You can run deca/tren together, but I wouldnt do it as the base for a bulker... which looks like what he wants to do. I personally dont like tren for bulking. If you're gonna bulk with deca then the only way I'd run tren is for 3-4wks tops just for strength purposes. And I think 10wks is a little too long to run tren in any cycle. You only increase sides doing that. My advice is to replace the tren with something else.

 

[gimp]

bull...tren and deca go great together. just throw a very small amount of test in there and you'll be fine...there's next to no water retention on this type of cycle. gives great gains and you look hard and defined if your BF% is low....how many of you above have done both tren and deca at the same time?

 

[Outtlaw]

bull...tren and deca go great together. just throw a very small amount of test in there and you'll be fine...there's next to no water retention on this type of cycle. gives great gains and you look hard and defined if your BF% is low....how many of you above have done both tren and deca at the same time?

Look at what I wrote above.

You can run deca/tren together, but I wouldnt do it as the base for a bulker

 

[DIVISION]

Look at what I wrote above.

^^^still runnin' from the po-po?


I hate cops.........





DIV

 

[Outtlaw]

Me too. Fuck em all.

 

[gimp]

Look at what I wrote above.

LOL...! agreed

 

[DIVISION]

Me too. Fuck em all.

You should write a book on your experiences with the law.

It would help us.




DIV

 

[outsized]

bull...tren and deca go great together. just throw a very small amount of test in there and you'll be fine...there's next to no water retention on this type of cycle. gives great gains and you look hard and defined if your BF% is low....how many of you above have done both tren and deca at the same time?

I agree with gimp. I am on week 10 of Deca @ 400mg/wk, Tren @ 75mg eod and winny @ 30mg/day cycle. I have never been this vascular or shredded in my life! HOWEVER, over the past 4 weeks I have lost some of my sex drive and feel a little lethargic. I have had no other sides from this cycle. If I was to do this cycle again, I would add test cyp in @ 200mg/wk.

 

[BionicBC]

thinking deca at 400 mg every week
tren 75 mg eod for 10 weeks
followed by nolva and clomid anyone think this is a bad or good idea.. i've also read much about deca dick wondering if there is anything out there besides just test than can alter this thanks

Lets spell it together now!!!
P*R*O*G*E*S*T*E*R*O*N*E
This cycle will produce an excellent set of man titties.
Bionic

 

[Phaded]

thanks for all the insight guys..

 

[gimp]

it's unlikely....more of a myth that it'll cause gyno. I've run it and others above have too

 

[baby DBOL]

bull...tren and deca go great together. just throw a very small amount of test in there and you'll be fine...there's next to no water retention on this type of cycle. gives great gains and you look hard and defined if your BF% is low....how many of you above have done both tren and deca at the same time?

The thing to remember is "Everyone's body is different", just because it does not work for you, does not mean its not great for me. Always think the 80/20% rule.

Some get acne, gyno, limp dick, hair falling out, or all or non of the above.

This mixture is working miracles for me. nothing short of greatness:

100mg tren ed
200mg NPP 3 times a week
50mg winstrol ed
250mg sustonon 3 times a week with NPP.
1 mg arimidex Eod
.5 casaber E4D

Best cycle I have ever done, Big, lean, ripped, vasular and strong.

As far as crashing afterward. I have never had a problem with some legit HCG, clomd and Nolvadex. But with the AAS stack above, the dose of pCT would be higher than just at test/dbol pct.

 

[Outtlaw]

This mixture is working miracles for me. nothing short of greatness:

100mg tren ed
200mg NPP 3 times a week
50mg winstrol ed
250mg sustonon 3 times a week with NPP.
1 mg arimidex Eod
.5 casaber E4D

Best cycle I have ever done, Big, lean, ripped, vasular and strong.

That's a totally different cycle then what we were talking about. I see nothing wrong with that cycle. The issue was deca/tren for 10wks.... nothing else.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Everyone reacts differently. Tren and deca doesn't necessarily imply that you're going to have no sex life and grow breasts. Obviously it's not wise to run ONLY these two together; test should probably be added. I would also separate them, and use deca to start with, and finish of with tren so you are not running them side by side. At least that's what I did during my last cycle. Usually a good idea to have dostinex and proviron on hand as well.

 

[sinister]

I agree with alot of these guys Tren is an awesome muscle builer and great for cutting fat and keeping that hard look as any stron androgen will do BUT one thing no one talked about is that Tren is VERY toxic to your body especially hard on the kidneys and some times the damage done may be ir-reversible. Something to think about. Most concerned guys wont go over 6 weeks.

 

[DIVISION]

Everyone reacts differently. Tren and deca doesn't necessarily imply that you're going to have no sex life and grow breasts.

Exactly.

Everyone reacts differently to the same drugs.

Don't assume what sides one person experiences will apply to you.



DIV

 

[gimp]

I agree with alot of these guys Tren is an awesome muscle builer and great for cutting fat and keeping that hard look as any stron androgen will do BUT one thing no one talked about is that Tren is VERY toxic to your body especially hard on the kidneys and some times the damage done may be ir-reversible. Something to think about. Most concerned guys wont go over 6 weeks.

tren is not toxic..if it were we'd be dropping like flies. another steroid myth IMO

 

[LVTitan]

Are you replying to me or the guy that doesnt care if he crashes or not?? Cause I know exactly what each product does. Its his body, if he wants to have it shut down and crash then that's on him.

You can run deca/tren together, but I wouldnt do it as the base for a bulker... which looks like what he wants to do. I personally dont like tren for bulking. If you're gonna bulk with deca then the only way I'd run tren is for 3-4wks tops just for strength purposes. And I think 10wks is a little too long to run tren in any cycle. You only increase sides doing that. My advice is to replace the tren with something else.

no not you outlaw, the other cat.. i agree with you on lots of things, mostly the idea of "fuck the police" ... hah

 

[greekhookup]

"bionic" that was the funniest thing i have heard this week!!!

 

[sfgiant]

If it’s of any help I’m running 600mg of Deca a week with 200mg of Parabolin every third day. The Deca will be phased out over the next few weeks. I’ve been lethargic on Para…which seems odd, but have had no other side from this cycle…currently on week 6 of a 10 week cycle. Regarding Tren toxicity ….I’m not sure if the Kidney issue is a myth or not…I haven’t seen any medical research to suggest that Tren is Kidney toxic, but would love to see some documentation on this alarming side effect

If I could I would run Test instead of Deca, but I’ve tried three types of Test and they all give me post injection pain / BA sensitivity. I have no Acne from Deca/Tren, but always get Acne from Test.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Dial_tone]

From what I read it's the BA that was toxic in the studies I saw, not the Tren itself.

 

[sinister]

tren is not toxic..if it were we'd be dropping like flies. another steroid myth IMO

Tren as well as many others are toxic but that does not mean that it is deadly and as far as everyone dropping like flies- everyones body responds differently to what we take. Many people can tolerate alot of what we take but does that mean that you should stay on for longer than recommended. I would place money on the fact that if you were to stay on for a long period of time on tren such as this time frame and then if you were to go to a Physician after and had a full panel done along with LFT and KFT the results would prove that your levels were dangerously off. I was just trying to add a point of view other than having tren dick. Most of us disregard health over what we take for muscle since health has absolutely nothing to do with our passion of muscle gain, BUT why put your organs through un-needed stress and damages for an extra 4 weeks that wont give you much of a noticeable difference.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

I'd say.... not so great of an idea.

ditto

 

[outsized]

Lets spell it together now!!!
P*R*O*G*E*S*T*E*R*O*N*E
This cycle will produce an excellent set of man titties.
Bionic

Sorry, Bionic. No gyno! Perhaps not everyone is prone to progestinic in the same way?

Yes, I know I am shut down, but no more so than when I run a test/dbol cycle.

 

[Phaded]

I just got done running tren at moderate-high doses and I feel fine! I ran it for 10 weeks! It was awesome but seems to cut some water out of you making you look a lil smaller. I got lean gains and solid as a rock. I look big but the mass is all quality and you can tell it is just looking at me with a regular shirt on. Not like test/d-bol where you look like a marshmallow with no detail!

 

[BionicBC]

Sorry, Bionic. No gyno! Perhaps not everyone is prone to progestinic in the same way?

Yes, I know I am shut down, but no more so than when I run a test/dbol cycle.

So thats you in your avatar, huh? Because it looks like your gyno got so out of hand you have to wear a sports bra now...


j/k bro, glad it worked out for you.
Bionic

 

[Ulter]

The cycle is missing test. You shouldn't do this cycle without using test. Your body needs test for several important systems and you're proposing to eliminate it and load up with two progestins. You would need to add 400mg/wk of test to this. But let's talk about experience. From what I remember you've never done a cycle. This is a bullshite first cycle and is likely to be a disaster. You're hell bent on cutting and growing at the same time and you think that these two drugs will be the ticket. Wrong.
You don't care if your crash??? Tell me that again when you can't train. When you feel like you have mono for 2 months. When you want to cry and not get out of bed in the morning when you wake up and find that it hasn't gone away and you still feel like you did yesterday. You don't have the strength to walk down the street without wanting to lay down. When you crash it will likely be the worst experience of your life.

I am not flaming you, I am saving your ass. Do what I told you before. Use test. Grow. Then cut.

 

[Phaded]

i've crashed from other drugs i'm sure it can't be as bad as those.. but i do know exactly what are you talking about now.. and there is no way in hell i'd want this to happen to me.. thanks big guy

 

[view]

The thing to remember is "Everyone's body is different", just because it does not work for you, does not mean its not great for me. Always think the 80/20% rule.

Some get acne, gyno, limp dick, hair falling out, or all or non of the above.

This mixture is working miracles for me. nothing short of greatness:

100mg tren ed
200mg NPP 3 times a week
50mg winstrol ed
250mg sustonon 3 times a week with NPP.
1 mg arimidex Eod
.5 casaber E4D

Best cycle I have ever done, Big, lean, ripped, vasular and strong.

As far as crashing afterward. I have never had a problem with some legit HCG, clomd and Nolvadex. But with the AAS stack above, the dose of pCT would be higher than just at test/dbol pct.

Well no shit 2 grams of gear is going too do miracles.