Deca Test Winny???

[cyrex]

Thinking ahead for my 2nd cycle (not for another 20 weeks or so), but assuming I want to get harder and more vascular with some decent mass(but not a main goal). I'm thinking winny would be nice to run for the vascularity and hardness, but I'm thinking that with knee injuries and shoulder injuries in the past the drying of the joints would not be fun. Is winny good to stack with Deca to counteract the drying of the joints?


300mg Deca
250mg Test
?? Winny last 6 weeks
maybe 50mg anavar ED last few weeks leading into PCT

any thoughts?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

That is pointless IMO. Eighter you are going for loss of BF or Mass. If you want to do both and bulk i guess real real leanly....and try to loose bf... I would do the Test/Winny Arimidex

You add deca you will add bloat. Do you want bloat?
Save the deca for bulking.

Winny kills joints & is 17aa. IMO best to save it for gettign ripped the last few weeks or show preperation.

Test, EQ, Arimidex would be an ideal stack IMO for your goals. Thats what i would do anyways.

Good luck bro!

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Winny would counteract what you want from Deca and Deca would counteract what you want from Winny.

 

[cyrex]

yeah that's what I was leaning towards but was wondering about this ...
I already have access to the EQ (friend got some for a cycle but has stopped working out due to 100 hour work week lately so I'm thinking he won't be using it.

how
400mg EQ/wk 1-12
500mg Test wk 1-14 ??
PCT wk16+??

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Looks Awesome.

Add just a pinch of arimidex or AIFM if you want no bloat whatsoever.

 

[cyrex]

Looks Awesome.

Add just a pinch of arimidex or AIFM if you want no bloat whatsoever.

hehe If i ever have 500mg test ina cycle you can assume at least .5mg arimidex ED


ALso I'd like to incorporate anavar.. frontload or end?

 

[PolfaJelfa]

End.
Use it after you discontinue injections for 4-5 weeks at moderate-low dosages. Will alow the esters to get out of your system so your PCT can work properly.

 

[k6jatu37]

Polfa- so:
400mg EQ/wk 1-12
500mg Test wk 1-14
Anavar when?
PCT when?
if its a lean bulker, do i change diet when on the anavar?

 

[richspc]

Deca is more anabolic then androgenic. You can use deca to bulk or lean. If you want to bulk with deca, bump your cal.up to 4000+ per day. If you want to lean out drop your cal. 1500 per day. Just rounds figures on the cal's.

 

[todoveritas]

but I'm thinking that with knee injuries and shoulder injuries... Is winny good to stack with Deca to counteract the drying of the joints?

300mg Deca
250mg Test
?? Winny last 6 weeks
maybe 50mg anavar ED last few weeks leading into PCT

any thoughts?

Addressing your original concerns, the Deca is far superior to the others being suggested in its stead-nothing beats it for joint relief, which Winny is sure to aggravate. Deca + Winny complement each other immensely in that the anti-progesterone effect seen with stanozolone will counteract any progesterone-induced side effects from the Deca (although with such a low dose at 300 Q week, I doubt it will be a concern). Bloat should also not be a problem. Adding winny 50 QD or even 75 QOD would be fine and add an esthetically pleasing look to the moderate mass you should develop with that cycle. I would think it superior to anavar in this aspect. Deca doesn't deserve the bad rap it gets on this board, IMHO-in 20 years working with BB'ers I have seen sides being a problem from test 10-20x more frequently than I have from Deca.