Deca/Test/Anavar-2nd Cycle...little results:(

[Workout86]

Hi everyone,

Im on my second cycle. Doing 10 weeks of Deca/ Test/ and added 30 MG of var. Im on my 4th week and I don't feel like I'm gaining as much as the first time I did Deca/Test/ Var a year ago. I have increase about 6 to 8lbs since I started four weeks ago, but last time my muscles just felt bigger.

Here is my current dose
.5 CC of Deca and .5 CC of Test on Mondays and Thursdays and 30 mg of Var a day.

Again, This is my fourth week. What could it be...maybe my stuff is fake?

Current Stats: 5'8, 150lbs, 26 yrs.

Thoughts?

 

[kc17]

Hi everyone,

Im on my second cycle. Doing 10 weeks of Deca/ Test/ and added 30 MG of var. Im on my 4th week and I don't feel like I'm gaining as much as the first time I did Deca/Test/ Var a year ago. I have increase about 6 to 8lbs since I started four weeks ago, but last time my muscles just felt bigger.

Here is my current dose
.5 CC of Deca and .5 CC of Test on Mondays and Thursdays and 30 mg of Var a day.

Again, This is my fourth week. What could it be...maybe my stuff is fake?

Current Stats: 5'8, 150lbs, 26 yrs.

Thoughts?

I dont think is bunk ,you've gained 6-8 lbs so far but inmo you need to up your calories and carbs asap, keep in mind deca will shine around week 5th and preferably witha high carb diet

 

[stevesmi]

so you weighed 142 pounds when you started your cycle? and this is your second cycle?

sheesh man. put down the needle and learn how to workout and eat! this is why you aren't gaining and you will not gain anything until you fix those 2 things

 

[rich_89]

Hi Op.

Please post a typical weeks training, broken down by day. Also a typical days food intake/diet.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hi everyone,

Im on my second cycle. Doing 10 weeks of Deca/ Test/ and added 30 MG of var. Im on my 4th week and I don't feel like I'm gaining as much as the first time I did Deca/Test/ Var a year ago. I have increase about 6 to 8lbs since I started four weeks ago, but last time my muscles just felt bigger.

Here is my current dose
.5 CC of Deca and .5 CC of Test on Mondays and Thursdays and 30 mg of Var a day.

Again, This is my fourth week. What could it be...maybe my stuff is fake?

Current Stats: 5'8, 150lbs, 26 yrs.

Thoughts?

You will never gain like you did on ur first cycle!

Test to deca should be 2:1 even what type of test ester are you using?

6-8 lbs what more do you want? Thats alot of weight!

Whats ur cal intake and how r u eating?

And up var to 40mg

 

[bonacris]

so you weighed 142 pounds when you started your cycle? and this is your second cycle?

sheesh man. put down the needle and learn how to workout and eat! this is why you aren't gaining and you will not gain anything until you fix those 2 things

Have to agree with this.. it sounds like you weren't eating enough before you started AAS and haven't changed your diet since you started using.. need to adress your diet 1st



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[eddymerckx]

so you weighed 142 pounds when you started your cycle? and this is your second cycle?

sheesh man. put down the needle and learn how to workout and eat! this is why you aren't gaining and you will not gain anything until you fix those 2 things

yup, what steve said^^^^^

 

[charomid]

Why are u doing sauce when u were 140lbs bro? If you're 5'10 u can easily get to 185lbs naturally by actually eating. Dont look for shorcuts!! And i cant believe u did all that for your first cycle. This is why u dont know how to gain or use steroids.

 

[charomid]

Also, who in their right mind does Deca for their first cycle? Are u just dumb or u actually dont know anything about steroids? That can and probably did damage u far beyone repair because u probably didnt even have a correct pct on hand to come off

 

[stevesmi]

You will never gain like you did on ur first cycle!

Test to deca should be 2:1 even what type of test ester are you using?

6-8 lbs what more do you want? Thats alot of weight!

Whats ur cal intake and how r u eating?

And up var to 40mg

var in his cycle is useless anyway. it won't do anything except burn a whole in his wallet at those dosages.

he doesn't have to do test 2 to 1. i've run deca 300-400 with 250-500 test and i had sensational results. changed my body composition

but with deca as you said if he isn't getting cals then it won't do very much.. its a very carb dependent roid. hit the buffet daily and work your ass off in the gym.. otherwise deca is a waste

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Also, who in their right mind does Deca for their first cycle? Are u just dumb or u actually dont know anything about steroids? That can and probably did damage u far beyone repair because u probably didnt even have a correct pct on hand to come off

First ot all, the above post is ridiculous and written by somebody that just wants to appear to be some great authority. Many people run test and deca in their first cycle so don't come off with this holier than thou "who in their right mind" BS. As for the statement that he likely did "damage far beyond repair", that's another ridiculous statement that is not supported by ANY science. PCT is certainly important for many reasons but a run of deca that is not followed by proper PCT does not damage a person beyond repair, it just makes recovery much more slow. You were just blasting just to blast. I'm blasting because you made a post filled with ignorance. Big difference between my blast and yours.
Now to the OP. Bro, I'm going to agree with the other posters and wonder why a person that was 142lbs even considered going down this path. And for it to be your second cycle (and by your admission, the first went well) you must have been under 130lbs when you started the first run. I can imagine the desperation to get bigger if you're that small and the idea that you'll try anything to not be so tiny but the reality is that you didn't try the two things that would have worked, FOOD and proper training. Maybe you're an exteemely small framed guy and at 155lbs or so, you really are near your genetic limit. The people that say you could have gotten to 180 or this weight or that weight are guessing. They don't know your genetics or anything about your frame. If you ate right, busted your ass in the gym, took the right supplements and stalled at 155 or 160, I'd say go for it - hit the sauce. But not at 132 bro. So, take a step back, put the gear in the cupboard for a later date and eat big. Grow until you can't grow any more and THEN kick it up a notch with the gear. And if you want to run test and deca at that time, do it. Nothing wrong with that cycle at all.

 

[charomid]

First ot all, the above post is ridiculous and written by somebody that just wants to appear to be some great authority. Many people run test and deca in their first cycle so don't come off with this holier than thou "who in their right mind" BS. As for the statement that he likely did "damage far beyond repair", that's another ridiculous statement that is not supported by ANY science. PCT is certainly important for many reasons but a run of deca that is not followed by proper PCT does not damage a person beyond repair, it just makes recovery much more slow. You were just blasting just to blast. I'm blasting because you made a post filled with ignorance. Big difference between my blast and yours.
Now to the OP. Bro, I'm going to agree with the other posters and wonder why a person that was 142lbs even considered going down this path. And for it to be your second cycle (and by your admission, the first went well) you must have been under 130lbs when you started the first run. I can imagine the desperation to get bigger if you're that small and the idea that you'll try anything to not be so tiny but the reality is that you didn't try the two things that would have worked, FOOD and proper training. Maybe you're an exteemely small framed guy and at 155lbs or so, you really are near your genetic limit. The people that say you could have gotten to 180 or this weight or that weight are guessing. They don't know your genetics or anything about your frame. If you ate right, busted your ass in the gym, took the right supplements and stalled at 155 or 160, I'd say go for it - hit the sauce. But not at 132 bro. So, take a step back, put the gear in the cupboard for a later date and eat big. Grow until you can't grow any more and THEN kick it up a notch with the gear. And if you want to run test and deca at that time, do it. Nothing wrong with that cycle at all.

Are u actually that close-minded that u think i wanna appear like im in great authority? First if i did, i wouldnt be writing in a forum like this. And yes many people run deca for their first cycle... Smart people however! Guys who have an appropriate weight to height ratio and have proper pct on hand to help come off. Did u even read his post? Hes young and dumb and immature and thinks sauce is the answer when he weighed 130lbs soaking wet!!! U obviously feel the need to nit-pick everything and call other ppl out to make u think ur better than everyone... Ask any big time guys on here what they think about ppl who weigh that little and take deca with no pct! It takes some guys a full 8 months to a year to recover and even then ur not back to 100%. There is no need for "scientific facts" for ppl to know that its true. Read and educate yourself and you'll see what im talking about

 

[TheSVPdeal]

I can already see this getting out of hand.

Guys, let's stay on topic to help this dude.

More food and more training. . . Lol. Really!

 

[gymjunkie09]

Also, who in their right mind does Deca for their first cycle? Are u just dumb or u actually dont know anything about steroids? That can and probably did damage u far beyone repair because u probably didnt even have a correct pct on hand to come off

I ran deca for my first cycle, I take offense to this lol......

 

[gymjunkie09]

Are u actually that close-minded that u think i wanna appear like im in great authority? First if i did, i wouldnt be writing in a forum like this. And yes many people run deca for their first cycle... Smart people however! Guys who have an appropriate weight to height ratio and have proper pct on hand to help come off.

thats better

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Are u actually that close-minded that u think i wanna appear like im in great authority? First if i did, i wouldnt be writing in a forum like this. And yes many people run deca for their first cycle... Smart people however! Guys who have an appropriate weight to height ratio and have proper pct on hand to help come off. Did u even read his post? Hes young and dumb and immature and thinks sauce is the answer when he weighed 130lbs soaking wet!!! U obviously feel the need to nit-pick everything and call other ppl out to make u think ur better than everyone... Ask any big time guys on here what they think about ppl who weigh that little and take deca with no pct! It takes some guys a full 8 months to a year to recover and even then ur not back to 100%. There is no need for "scientific facts" for ppl to know that its true. Read and educate yourself and you'll see what im talking about

Where in the guys post did it say he didn't do PCT? And he's dumb and immature because he geared up before he was even remotely ready? That doesn't make him dumb, that makes him ignorant on the subject of the appropriate time to venture down the steroid path. My issue with your post is that you make assumptions (like he didn't do proper PCT)and that he's dumb (maybe he's smarter than you or I). I've been in this game a very long time even though I have been away from this particular board for quite awhile. I know that you (nor anybody else) can tell a person that you have never seen how much weight they can gain natty or how much muscle they can hold. Because of that reality, you also can't have any validity in a statement like "you could get to xyz weight with proper diet and workouts". I can hold 210 at 5'9" without getting above a reasonable low BF but somebody else may be able to hold 230. Somebody else may have a very hard time holding 170. Is the guy at 230 more ready for gear than the guy at 170 just because his height to weight ratio is higher? Heck no. I know plenty of people that geared up at 160 or so pound and they were ready. They had a small frame and were holding quality, mature muscle. Obviously that's different than a guy that weighs 130lbs but my point is to assert that a person can/should get to a certain and specific weight before using steroids is ignorant. You offered zero help to the original poster and you were rude. Unless you've really got your shit going on dude, you need to slow that roll. Seriously bro, go back through your past posts and count up the times that you write "you're an idiot". You may be surprised at how many it is.

 

[Trevorisking]

I can already see this getting out of hand.

Guys, let's stay on topic to help this dude.

More food and more training. . . Lol. Really!

Agreed! Eat big to get big