Deca/Sust Cycle

[steel10]

New to the board here, but have enjoyed reading over the past posts-- so thanks.

I just wanted a little advise on my 2nd ever cylce. My first cylce was this summer and was 10 amps of sust 250 over 8 weeks. Put on 7-8 lbs and got stronger.

My stats are: 5'8'', 197-200lbs @ 11-12%bf. 22 years old. Dedicated lifter.

I was planning on doing 10 weeks of:
250 mg sust 250/week
300mg Tkk deca/week

I have never done deca and wanted to see what I would get off of it --but starting to think the sust should be bumped up to 500mg/week or increase the deca...not sure. What do you all think? Also, if I did bump up the sust, would it be bad to do 250mg sust per week with 250 of omnadren test (as I know they are the same deal)-- the reason being I already have 10 amps of sust and if buying another 10 amps thought amnadren would save some cash and be just as good....

Anyway, thanks.

 

[The Terminator]

If you are going to bump up either of them I would make it the test. At 500mg week with 300 deca you should gain alot more than your first cycle produced.

 

[cyberstiener]

I agree, 500 wk for the sus. That is exactly what I did, loved the results. You won't get a full 10 wks worth of deca with one bottle thou.

 

[genarr3]

I agree with The Terminator. 300mgs/week Deca is a good starting point

 

[steel10]

Thanks for the replies. Why won't I get the full 10 weeks out of a 10ml bottle of TKK deca 300mg/ml? Do they not contain what is advertised or what?? Also, cybterstiener, what exactly was your cycle with 500mg/week of sust? What are your stats and what were your results? Besides from post cycle clomid, did you need to use Novaldex during?

Anyway, thanks again and any more opinions would be greatly appreciated-- as I am trying to be somewhat conservative as this is only my second cycle, but also think I may need to bump the sust up to 500mg/week to really see results (as I have never used deca and not sure what that will produce at 300mg/week with 250mg/sust).

 

[RABS]

Be sure to take a test with the deca or your little guy will be littler and not work as well.

 

[D00fy]

can u help me clear this up since im still learning and i was wondering

deca = progesterone conversion
test =estrogen conversion

if having a test/deca cycle whouldn't the process of gyno flare up even more,yes arimidex and novadex for test but wha about deca ru486 and winny but is the "WINNY COMBATS DECA PROGESTERONE" a general idea or a proven fact? to much stuff come into play ,please help me get this clear,thx?

 

[RABS]

How is understand it is when you take deca with a test it counter balances each other unless one if much greater then the other. Either or stick with the e-blockers, novodex and clomid after.

 

[Immortal Juicer]

If you are going to bump up either of them I would make it the test. At 500mg week with 300 deca you should gain alot more than your first cycle produced.

right on the money. thats a perfect cycle!

 

[mvmaxx]

but is the "WINNY COMBATS DECA PROGESTERONE" a general idea or a proven fact? to much stuff come into play ,please help me get this clear,thx?

It's a "general idea" and nothing has been proven yet. Some say it works but those may have never gotten the progesterone side w/o the winny anyways. It's also a general consensus that >300mg of decca won't usually cause progesterone sides. Key word "usually" as there are always a select few who respond bad w/ light dosages.