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Deca- Super Drug???

Mike P.T. said:


im sure he's basing it out of the fact that deca makes you hold water. deca has a conversion rate to estrogen at 20% while having progesterone like effects independant of its conversion rate. estrogen makes u hold water. thats why hes saying that alot of the weight is not just solid muscle tissue.

please know what you are talking about before you post. Deca does not convert to estrogen, it converts to progesterone. Like I said, you hold much less water off deca than you do with other compounds, namely test, dbol, drol, etc. So if you don't like deca because it makes you hold water, than you'd really hate test, right?
 
Mike P.T. said:


for further note bro just to educate u a bit. not all steroids cause water retension. non-aromatizable steroids and ones that have no progesterone like effects on there own give no water retension.

What are you talking about mike? All steriods aromitize to some degree, that's just one of the processes of the steroid being metabolized. If non-aromitizeable steroids exist, then why is it possible to get gyno from ANY steroid???
 
Golfer18 said:
Deca is a good drug, but i like drugs like winstrol , fina, eq, and ox. I love being hard with keepable gains.

Golfer, I hear ya bro. I myself prefer 'pure anabolics' like you describe(deca included), with just low doses of test to keep my sex drive going.
 
Mike P.T. said:


for further note bro just to educate u a bit. not all steroids cause water retension. non-aromatizable steroids and ones that have no progesterone like effects on there own give no water retension.
Damn right Maxbiceps ! !
 
MaxBiceps said:


What are you talking about mike? All steriods aromitize to some degree, that's just one of the processes of the steroid being metabolized. If non-aromitizeable steroids exist, then why is it possible to get gyno from ANY steroid???

not flaming you bro but u do need to do more research. seriously. not all do at all. winny for example cant since its a derovative of dht which cannot chemically convert into estrogen no matter what.. proviron as well. primobolan cannot convert into estrogen as well as masteron. bro. do some more research. that stuff i just mentioned is beginner material
 
MaxBiceps said:


please know what you are talking about before you post. Deca does not convert to estrogen, it converts to progesterone. Like I said, you hold much less water off deca than you do with other compounds, namely test, dbol, drol, etc. So if you don't like deca because it makes you hold water, than you'd really hate test, right?
Sorry Max wrong quote. Too much tequila last night. But your right ! !
 
MaxBiceps said:
So what you're saying is, I can't get gyno from winny primo or masteron?

it is impossible. even at grams doses a week with these drugs!! even if your a sensitive individual and are prone to gyno it will not happen with these steroids at any dose. im serious bro. u can look it all up yourself. or ask around. just want to inform you.
 
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