Deca Shutdown or Tren Shutdown..?

[lawnsaver]

Test will stop your natural production of testosterone just the same as Tren will, I find Test, or any other AAS is just as difficult to recover from as Tren. So with that being said, if Tren affects you so badly, just dont take the shit. For myself and MANY others out there, Tren is just as tolerable as any other steroid. The only side effect I get from Tren is the ability to eat anything I wish and stay lean as hell

You are a lucky one....

Tren, deca, and anadrol are all progestins. Progestrone causes much more problems with the HPTA and sexual function.

This issue is proven, so to say that tren and test shuts you down equally is wrong. Now that doesnt mean that goes for everyone, but in general is a correct statement.

Believe me, I wish I could take tren and get all the wonderful muscle building properties, but I cant.

Count your blessings!

 

[thebrakes]

You are a lucky one....

Tren, deca, and anadrol are all progestins. Progestrone causes much more problems with the HPTA and sexual function.

This issue is proven, so to say that tren and test shuts you down equally is wrong. Now that doesnt mean that goes for everyone, but in general is a correct statement.

Believe me, I wish I could take tren and get all the wonderful muscle building properties, but I cant.

Count your blessings!

you are absolutely correct as far as progestins and HPTA shutdown.

test will certainly shut a person down, but HPTA recovery is typically easier and faster, especially with an AI. yes, HCG helps the situation. i'd be curious about post-PCT test results from a tren or deca heavy cycle.

 

[krishna]

Test will stop your natural production of testosterone just the same as Tren will, I find Test, or any other AAS is just as difficult to recover from as Tren. So with that being said, if Tren affects you so badly, just dont take the shit. For myself and MANY others out there, Tren is just as tolerable as any other steroid. The only side effect I get from Tren is the ability to eat anything I wish and stay lean as hell

You are so right bro.

 

[krishna]

you are absolutely correct as far as progestins and HPTA shutdown.

test will certainly shut a person down, but HPTA recovery is typically easier and faster, especially with an AI. yes, HCG helps the situation. i'd be curious about post-PCT test results from a tren or deca heavy cycle.

This is bs. Just take bromo and you won't have to worry about it. Test shuts me down more than anything. You lose a large majority of your gains off of test cycles too because when you recover, you have way less test than you did when you were on. With testless nandrolone cycles, you have more test when you recover than you did while you were on, so the added androgen of test helps sustain gains better.

 

[krishna]

I dont think tren is a nandrolone.

It is a nandrolone.

 

[gettnlarge01]

Tren always the only side I get is the night sweats. I can live with that

 

[Big O]

So the sides from the tren..sounds like a perfect winter AAS....Ive tried some shit but it was in the dead of summer....I couldn't tolerate the heat very well at all....

How about 1/2 a cc of tren rather than1 full cc....TREN A...Im talking about....

Anyone do eod with tren a..?

Im hoping my nexy cycle if it ever happens...Im going with tren and pregnyl

Krishna...very good arguement.....In all my years using gear...Ive never ever done a cycle without test....

But i was actually going to change my next cycle this time around....As soon as this Aflutop starts to help my elbow...

 

[lawnsaver]

This is bs. Just take bromo and you won't have to worry about it. Test shuts me down more than anything. You lose a large majority of your gains off of test cycles too because when you recover, you have way less test than you did when you were on. With testless nandrolone cycles, you have more test when you recover than you did while you were on, so the added androgen of test helps sustain gains better.

Ok, so what your saying is if I take bromo, distonex, or cabaser, that all the suppression from the substances won't happen?

So if thats the case, arimidex and all other substances similar will stop us all from shutting down?

I would like to see the data you have to back that up.

How can you take so broadly? You are able to speak for the entire body building community? Thats pretty cool.

I didnt realize I was speaking to such and expert....


I take everything I said back. I guess I am the only one in this world who has problems with deca, tren, and anadrol.

Wow, thats pretty cool. I single handedly started and spread the rumor that these drugs are harder to recover from.

 

[e6er]

Tren was the best cycle, but I'm glad I am off b/c I was an asshole to everyone.

 

[nydj66]

Ok, so what your saying is if I take bromo, distonex, or cabaser, that all the suppression from the substances won't happen?

So if thats the case, arimidex and all other substances similar will stop us all from shutting down?

I would like to see the data you have to back that up.

How can you take so broadly? You are able to speak for the entire body building community? Thats pretty cool.

I didnt realize I was speaking to such and expert....


I take everything I said back. I guess I am the only one in this world who has problems with deca, tren, and anadrol.

Wow, thats pretty cool. I single handedly started and spread the rumor that these drugs are harder to recover from.

Elevated prolactin (from progestagenic coumpounds) will hinder post-cycle recovery of the HPTA. The use of cabergoline through a nandrolone cycle and PCT will greatly improve the recovery.

All AAS in BB'ing dosages shut down the HPTA. After a short cycle without nandrolones recovery should take about 3 weeks.

After a long cycle without nandrolones, recovery will take about 6 weeks unless HCG is used. When used properly, HCG can reduce recovery time to 3 weeks.

After a nandrolone cycle (without a dopamine agonist like cabergoline) recovery can be even longer than 6 weeks depending on the individual. Again, if prolactin is properly managed and HCG is used, recovery can be acheived in 3 weeks.